Need replication of drag free generator test results, drawing attached

[Low-Q]

The maximum possible delay (in a perfect inductor) is 90 degrees between voltage and current. Everything else you've said I agree with.
Cheers

You're right. I mixed it with the combination coil/capacitor, where at resonance there is at max 180 degree phase delay between current and voltage. 90 degrees for each coil and capacitor is correct. My mistake, and thanks for correcting me .

Good to see that some people is still awake on this forum, when I'm not

Vidar

[Low-Q]

Vidar,
Ok, we know why the coil is not putting out the amps one would like to see from the indicated voltage. Does anyone have an idea how to overcome this "choking" off of amp flow? Also the type of load will change the behavior of the coil, pure resistive load, pure inductive load or a combination of the two. I didn't see a comment on load types and their effect?
Over the years I have read many thousands of comments explaining why someones design is not working, but I would say only around 5% follow up with a suggestion on how to maybe overcome the problem and make it work. I wonder where we would be right now if every comment explaining why something will not work was followed by at least a half hearted attempt to suggest a way to go about making it work?
Any suggestions on getting some amps out of this coil. Burt was running at 900 cycles per second on his coils and was able to overcome the problem, but is keeping quite how he did it.
Thanks guys for the input,
Butch

This is much about the phase shift. If you want to reduce the amp problem by implementing a device, you will again get more drag when you load it, because the energy, which is calculated by amps times voltage times cosinus of the phase shift, will increase as the phase shift is reduced.

An inductor will allways act like it does. If you want to reduce the phase shift, you can also implement a resistor, but that resistor will steal some of the energy in proportion to how less phase delay you'll get.

I think the main reason there isn't much follow ups, is because there is actually no way to fix the problem without making another problem. And maybe 5% of the people that follows up with the suggestion didn't see that other problem coming up after solving the first problem.

I have unfortunately no good solution for you, except that you can decrease the number of turns in the coil. That will reduce the voltage and increase the amps. If you want to do it very good, you can use litz-wire to reduce the skin-effect as well. However, skin-effect isn't showing before you reach 20 000 - 30 000 rpms or so. I know that small powerful electric motors have rectangular wire or litz-wire in the rotor to reduce the skin-effect.

Skin effect is what happens when current flow will, in greater extent, follow the surface of the conductor as the frequency rises - instead of using the whole area of the conductor.

Vidar

[Butch LaFonte]

Thanks,
Butch

[nueview]

i once did the same type of out of phase current thig while trying to make a generator and for some reason tried an avramenco plug on the line and it gave me usable power at full current but only on the single line you might try this

[BEP]

The maximum possible delay (in a perfect inductor) is 90 degrees between voltage and current. Everything else you've said I agree with.
Cheers

P.F. metering normally only measures from -.5 to +.5 (90 minus to 90 plus). At least, I've never seen different.
Yes, -/+ 90 is the rule for maximums. Rules are broken.