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[broli]

Yucca you'd need a very well equipped lab to build and perform those experiments. And all that to prove the cop is above 1? I'm looking for a solution that actually can benefit from the increased cop rather than just proving it.

[Yucca]

Yucca you'd need a very well equipped lab to build and perform those experiments. And all that to prove the cop is above 1? I'm looking for a solution that actually can benefit from the increased cop rather than just proving it.

Hi Broli,

No expensive equipment required, just the jerry built rig described, a mercury thermometer, a stopwatch and a fair bit of time and fiddling.  The prony brake to determine shaft torque can be made with a split nylon bushing with an adjustable hoseclamp around it with a coathanger wire lever pushing onto a cheap fishing spring balance. All pretty low tech stuff and then we could determine whether total system COP is OU. If it is then we can set about doing the expensive stuff, i.e. designing a system to harvest the energy, ideally electrically with minimal heat losses.

If system COP>1 is proved then it's big news, and everyone will have to agree. But then the Griggs hydrosonic pump (cavitation) is already proven to be thermally COP>1 and it seems to be ignored by mainstream science? But anyway I have not convinced myself yet that COP>1 for homopolar gennies.

To me, it just seems like the logical step to fill in the missing jigsaw peices. I will probably be conducting this experiment, before I set about it I would like to hear any ideas from anyone for experiment improvement.

q)RE the general homopolar case:
Do you believe COP>1 to be already proven, and if so how and why? I may well have missed some documented experiment, if so please tell me, I'm keen to learn more about these strange devices.

Best, Yucca.

[BWS]

@yucca,

I do believe the homopolar generator (preferably in a unipolar configuration) can be overunity and produce excess electricity, in fact I have patented what I believe to be the only practical way to do so.  In 1985 I attended a "Free Energy Conference" in Hanover, W. Germany  hosted by Dr. Hans Neiper.  There were dozens of devices there claiming over unity.  Most were frictional heaters represented that claimed o.u..  Remember that refrigeration systems and heat pumps were considered o.u. until the math was changed to account for them.  Similarly I believe (and can completely document) that induction is a reactionless event between 2 charged particles under specific geometries and is expressed in nature in systems of circulating charged particles (which generate a magnetic field, which further amplifies the system thus attracting and accelerating more charged particles reactionlessly from the surrounding medium).
  You should read earlier pages in this blog for more of my references.

-BWS

[gravityblock]

You guys really have me confused.  Not that I wasn't confused to begin with.

When the magnet is rotating with a stationary external circuit going from the axis to the rim of the disk on it's "North Pole Side", then a voltage and current is detected.  The external circuit is causing the back torque in this setup?  What determines the direction of the current, from the axis to rim or from the rim to the axis?  Is it the direction of rotation of the magnet relative to the field?  We'll say for simplicity sake that the current will move from the axis to rim with a clockwise rotation of the magnet.

Now, connect another stationary external circuit on the other side of the magnet, "South Pole Side".  Will the current move in the same direction on both sides of the magnet?  I say the current on the "South Pole Side" will move from the rim to the axis with the same clockwise rotation which would be opposite to the "North Pole Side".

What will happen if we connect the two external circuits where the brush on the rim connects to both the "North Pole Side" and the "South Pole Side" axises?  Will this cancel the field?  I believe this may eliminate the back torque of the external wire because the back torque on one side would then enforce the torque on the other side, which would cancel the back torque while taking current off the disk.

Please help me, I am so lost now.

[Yucca]

@yucca,

I do believe the homopolar generator (preferably in a unipolar configuration) can be overunity and produce excess electricity, in fact I have patented what I believe to be the only practical way to do so.  In 1985 I attended a "Free Energy Conference" in Hanover, W. Germany  hosted by Dr. Hans Neiper.  There were dozens of devices there claiming over unity.  Most were frictional heaters represented that claimed o.u..  Remember that refrigeration systems and heat pumps were considered o.u. until the math was changed to account for them.  Similarly I believe (and can completely document) that induction is a reactionless event between 2 charged particles under specific geometries and is expressed in nature in systems of circulating charged particles (which generate a magnetic field, which further amplifies the system thus attracting and accelerating more charged particles reactionlessly from the surrounding medium).
  You should read earlier pages in this blog for more of my references.

-BWS

Hi BWS,

I'm not doubting OU in these devices and I'm not doubting your word, but there's a big difference between "believing" and "knowing". I would like to know, and calorimetry is the only way I can think to test at the moment. And it would yield real numbers for further work to use.

Also I totally agree with you that heat pumps are OU, I wasn't aware the books have been rewritten to accomodate them, I thought they were a dirty secret always pushed to the back of the closet by mainstream. If you could give me a hint to the rewrite I'd appreciate it, I don't need a link, just some words to google.

Heat pumps distill and then harvest the naturally occuring backround energies. I think if they were electrically based then they would cause alot more excitement than they do.

Cheers, Yucca.

edit: I will now read all of your posts on this forum.