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[groundhog]

I've been watching this thread with much interest and just wanted to throw in this point for your consideration.
If you just consider the physical properties of the flux as it is radiated away from the magnet then the field cannot be spinning with magnet unless it has an equal or greater mass than the magnet... however, it could very well be spiraling slowly. The mass of the magnet flux () itself could not sustain the speed of rotation once separated from the magnet. Similar to throwing a handful of dust from the window of a speeding car, the mass cannot sustain the speed once the motive power is removed. Just a thought for pondering, not a conclusive answer.

Thanks!

edit: Another thing to consider is the speed at which the flux travels in its circuit to the other pole.....

[gravityblock]

I've been watching this thread with much interest and just wanted to throw in this point for your consideration.
If you just consider the physical properties of the flux as it is radiated away from the magnet then the field cannot be spinning with magnet unless it has an equal or greater mass than the magnet... however, it could very well be spiraling slowly. The mass of the magnet flux () itself could not sustain the speed of rotation once separated from the magnet. Similar to throwing a handful of dust from the window of a speeding car, the mass cannot sustain the speed once the motive power is removed. Just a thought for pondering, not a conclusive answer.

Thanks!

edit: Another thing to consider is the speed at which the flux travels in its circuit to the other pole.....

The field does move with the magnet when rotating on it's poles, so why can't it move with the magnet when rotating on it's axis?

If the field didn't move with the magnet, then the north and south poles would always face the same direction regardless of the orientation or movement of the magnet.

If you move a magnet from left to right on a table, does the field stay stationary or does it move with the magnet?  It doesn't matter if the magnet is moved in a straight line or an orbital path, the answer is the same.

Am I missing something that everyone else sees?

In my opinion, the flux is traveling faster than light speed.  It is a continuous stream and not delivered in packets or quanta that would otherwise make up the electromagnetic spectrum which contains visible light.  If the magnetic field can get out of a blackhole, then this suggests faster than light speed travel.

So, the flux would have left and entered the magnet before there is another plank length of rotation.  On the next plank length of rotation, then the flux would move accordingly with the magnet on a plank scale.  I'm using plank as a reference to only refer to the smallest amount of movement in order to be considered a change in location.

The flux may leave and enter the magnet millions of times before there is another plank length of rotation of the magnet.  Between these plank lengths of rotation, the flux is stationary.  The flux does move with the magnet, but the movement of the flux with the magnet is extremely minute in comparison to it being stationary.

Edit: @groundhog, Welcome to overunity.com  I'm a slow learner, so bear with me. lol

[groundhog]

@gb
True, I would agree with your theory if indeed the flux is a continuous 3 or 4 dimensional stream. I just have a hard time grasping that as a reality. I see it like a 'stream' of light...continuous to our frame and yet still a sequence of individual photon 'packets' if you will. Hence, to our frame of reference the flux would appear static even if the 'packets' were of plank size. whether or not the magnet was rotating on its axis or not. Your other point, (ie physically moving the magnet) I don't see as related to an axis rotation of a ring manet that is magnetized through it's thickness.
I guess it really depends on whether the flux is truly an 'aetheric' force that is only measurable by it's interaction with matter, or not.

I do know that my understanding of magnetic forces is limited, so please take my thoughts lightly, just something that I didn't see discussed or considered here yet.

edit: I think this only applies to homopolar gen, as broli's orig concept appears like it would create an alternating field. I can't yet grasp why he believes it should produce current....I'll have to go back and study his vector theory more :

[BEP]

In my opinion, the flux is traveling faster than light speed.  It is a continuous stream and not delivered in packets or quanta that would otherwise make up the electromagnetic spectrum which contains visible light.  If the magnetic field can get out of a blackhole, then this suggests faster than light speed travel.

I will offer my understanding here:

THE magnetic flux is an all permeating ambient. A black hole only disturbs this ambient structure, not much different than a magnet.
As you move the magnet you are only changing your area of disturbance (you move the so-called magnetic field but you are not moving the magnetic flux).
Spinning a magnet around its own axis is no different than spinning a bead on a string. The string will not spin, only the bead.

There is no need to calculate the speed of travel as it is already there. The path of 'travel' is like another string, or rope, already connected and not breakable, under most circumstances.

If you break this rope it will always reconnect. When it reconnects there would be a massive conversion of energy.

[gravityblock]

Everyone is avoiding the question about spinning the magnet on it's poles.

You could apply spinning the bead on a string, to spinning the magnet on it's poles also, which makes no sense.

According to this, the north and south poles will remain stationary when the magnet is rotating on it's poles just like it does on it's axis.

You can't have one part of the field remain stationary while the other part of the field is moving with the magnet, because the field is going to move or flow in the same way in the magnet, regardless if the magnet is rotating, moving or at rest.

I give up