The Bob Boyce challenge

[newbie123]

I don't have a working replication. The difficulty is beyond my abilities.

I have given you the where-with-all to understand the Physics that he uses. Either you read Chapter 10, or you don't.

Its that simple.

I find it really strange that you actually think you understand how this device works..  When in fact, you don't even know if the thing works!    I've read chapter 10, and I think the "physics" spoken of exists only in the minds of the inventors. .. It is pseudoscience, until people start to actually replicate the device.   That's how science  works...  If a device can't be replicated after multiple valid attempts, scientists assume the original experiment/design is flawed, and the device doesn't work.   IF a device is proven to work,  such as the Stan Meyer "WFC" or the BB 101 resonant cell,  then the physics behind the it are examined, theorized, etc..     Not the other way around!    For some weird reason, you and many other people on this forum do the following.    1.) theorize how something might work.      2.) Start to have "faith", and  actually believe the device works
3.) defend the inventor and technology with religious vigor

[Farrah Day]

Well put Newbie, I totally concur with your last post.

There is a lot of wishful thinking that goes on, and I believe a lot of people - like Bob - eventually and ultimately convince themselves they have achieved something special. It's like self-hypnosis - mind over matter so as to speak.

Dankie said:

I disagree , that sri-lankan kid , Daniel Dingel and herman anderson made it work .

And Stanley Meyers made it work .

But how do you know this? We've all seen and read the stories, but where is the actual proof? 

Blind faith in people who say they have achieved this, that and the other is not the way forward - however believable, however convincing, or however pleasant that person may be.

Who do you know that has replicated any of these peoples devices and had it independently verified?

I see many concepts - I'm yet to see a proof of concept. Proof being the operative word!

Ultimately, ignorance has a lot to answer for.

It's like these people who knock together an electrolyser which gives out a certain amount of gas per Watt, then build a more efficient unit that gives out more gas for less power and so assume they have achieved OU or over-Faraday. It's nonsense.

Quite simply, ignorance is the driving force behind many myths!

[dankie]

Well there hasnt been any "step-by-step" guide made for Dingle's tech or that Sri Lankan kid .

I dont see the point of doubting them since thye havent really shown us anything.

I believe Dindel and that Sri Lankan are for real , at least they havent sent us on a wild expensive goose chase .

[newbie123]

Well there hasnt been any "step-by-step" guide made for Dingle's tech or that Sri Lankan kid .

This is exactly the problem(s) I just wrote about. 

An inventor claims to have some revolutionary invention/technology  (which supposedly breaks the most experimentally proven laws of physics) .. Such as a car running on water (not LENR or Fusion, which aren't proven yet either.. close though).     They don't show the world (open source) or an actual scientist exactly how to build their device, or even bother selling a  crude working prototype .. Which could make them millions of dollars..  Then they'll usually be looking for investors or even selling similar devices that have absolutely nothing to do with their original claim/invention...   (i.e. Dingel and Boyce are both selling a brute force electrolyser..  C'mon)

I dont see the point of doubting them since thye havent really shown us anything.

There is every reason to doubt these guys, and absolutely no reason to believe them ...  Because the haven't shown use anything! No youtube videos, no working prototypes, nothing!

I believe Dindel and that Sri Lankan are for real , at least they havent sent us on a wild expensive goose chase .

You are grasping at straws 

[dankie]

I dont really care about youtube videos , I care about the truth .

Beware of what you see , see with your mind young newbie .

You still have alot to learn newbie ... Still much to learn little newbie ...