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Bob Boyce 101 efficiency details

Started by WilbyInebriated, May 12, 2009, 08:48:10 PM

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WilbyInebriated

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newbie123

Ok,  Lets start with Faraday Efficiency (from my understanding), and I'll get into the problems w/ measuring "Faraday" in series cells later....



Faraday electrolysis efficiency uses quantities of electrons (coulombs) and gas volume to determine the efficiency of an electrolytic cell.

According to Faraday law, 4 moles of electrons moving through a cell will create 2 moles of H2 gas, and 1 mole of O2 gas, at 100 percent Faraday Efficiency.

How to calculate 100 percent Faraday Efficiency:

First convert 4 moles of electrons into amps. (4 moles) * (avagadro's number) =
4 * 6.0221417e23 = 2.408856716e24 (electrons)

Then divide the total electrons by 1 Coulomb (quantity of electrons)

2.4088567e24 (electrons) / 6.24150947e18 (1 Coulomb) = 385941 Coulombs

Now calculate the Amp Hours:

Since (1 Amp) = (1 Coulomb * 1 Second)

(385941 C) / (3600 Seconds) = 107.205 Amp Hours (Ah)

Now figure out how much gas is in 2 moles of H2, and 1 mole of O2.
According to the ideal gas law, one mole of gas has a volume of 24.446 Liters at 25 C, 1 Atm. So:

(3 moles) * 24.446 L/mol = 73.338 Liters of HHO gas

So this is as exciting as Faraday Efficiency gets, it deals with Amps and Moles (quantities of electrons) only (not energy or voltage)....

So 107.205 Amps over one hour will generate 73.338 Liters of H2 O2 gas at 100 percent Faraday efficiency. That's it, 100 percent Faraday Efficiency.



Any problems with this, Wilby?


Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

WilbyInebriated

no problems, post whatever you want. i'll catch up when you start posting your measurements, those are what i am really interested in...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

newbie123

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 12, 2009, 09:09:23 PM
no problems, post whatever you want. i'll catch up when you start posting your measurements, those are what i am really interested in...
Uh, well the above will be pretty important to understand ... And, I might have made a mistake..   I'll continue in a little bit.

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

WilbyInebriated

"Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.."
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe