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Overunity Machines Forum



Will it work ?

Started by mondainmax, May 26, 2009, 02:35:40 PM

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mondainmax

#15
May 26, 2009, 07:35:20 PM
Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 26, 2009, 06:58:28 PM
You live in a very beautiful country. Having lived and traveled extensively in Turkey in the days of General Cemal Gürsel I got to know it quite well.

Hans von Lieven
Thanks,
i think you are an old man because cemal gursel dead in 1966 and he was president of Turkiye between 60 and 66 . Tukiye is really very beautiful country .

hansvonlieven

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May 26, 2009, 07:36:25 PM
Yes, I will be 70 later this year  ;D

hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

mondainmax

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May 26, 2009, 07:40:49 PM
you are so close to a century. "god will give you long lifespan" ( i think it's very bad english )

mondainmax

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May 27, 2009, 07:20:19 AM
Quote from: mondainmax on May 26, 2009, 07:27:24 PM
i want to ask a question in Desagulier's balance drawn when P is on 1 and W is on 1 there will be no effect . when P is on 1 and W is on 6 then P will go down and W will go up and we take some energy ? i think it's equal to 6*P or W(mass)*G(gravity force)*sinx . then locked the machine think P and W is like a ball and move the f and h upward just 1 cm (example) and P will go to G and W will go to I
(we use very small part of energy that we gained.) Unlocked the machine now W's moment is more than P so P is going to up and W to down and also gain 2*enegry that we calculated before. If i make a mistake please show me. Thanks


It's true or false ?

TinselKoala

#19
May 27, 2009, 03:12:07 PM
mondainmax, it really isn't necessary to go into detailed analysis of your weights and motions. All that is needed is to answer one question: Does your device depend on extracting energy from the motion of weights around a closed path, without addition of outside energy?

If the answer is "yes", then the answer is "No, it cannot work."

The reason has an exact mathematical proof that involves line integrals and force vectors. You cannot extract energy from a closed path in a conservative field of force.

In addition there are literally thousands of designs that have tried and failed, over the past several hundred years. Some of them are very similar to yours.

You may enjoy looking at Simanek's site, where these and other issues are discussed. It's a big site with many pages and diagrams; here is a good place to start.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/physgal.htm



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