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Overunity Machines Forum



Ricks Pipe Dream

Started by AquariuZ, May 23, 2009, 04:40:30 AM

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hansvonlieven

Cow magnets are simple bar magnets that are encased in some neutral material. The idea is that metal bits that the cow ingests get captured , stay inside and don't injure the cow. They are available around the world. There is nothing homopolar about the device.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

AquariuZ

The single polarity is simulated, that's all.

Besides the point I previously made BTW.

AZ

markdansie

@AquariuZ
Just wondering how your Mylow replication is comming along
Mark

hansvonlieven

Quote from: markdansie on June 03, 2009, 04:13:03 AM
@AquariuZ
Just wondering how your Mylow replication is coming along
Mark

Or the Sjack Abeling one for that matter

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

rickoff

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 28, 2009, 06:09:17 AM
Argh.

Your statement about flywheel effect is  wrong. The reason flywheels have holes near the center is to reduce their overall weight without correspondingly reducing their rotational moment of inertia. If you have 2 flywheels of the same dimensions, one with holes and one without, the one without holes will be the better flywheel. It will also be heavier.
I can prove this assertion if need be, but any elementary physics book can explain it to you. And if you think about it, how could removing material possibly increase inertia? It cannot. You take 2 flywheels, identical in dimensions, they have identical inertia. Your claim is that by removing material from one, you will increase its rotational inertia.

That isn't my assertion at all.  I am just saying that a better flywheel is made by removing mass near the center and placing it at the outer perimeter instead, where it enhances rotational inertia to a much greater degree.  And, what you say about about a heavier flywheel is not always true.  I guaran-damn-tee you that a solid flywheel weighing 20 pounds will not outperform a 19 pound spoked flywheel which has 80 percent or more of its weight placed at the outer perimeter.

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 28, 2009, 06:09:17 AM
Your assessment of my testbed is also wrong. There are no ferromagnetic materials whatsoever on or near the disk.
Okay, then what the heck is that large block jutting straight up from the rotor which causes the stator to hang up and stop motion when above it?  You didn't answer that.

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 28, 2009, 06:09:17 AM
I  have many different magnets and have tried many different configurations. I have a data-logging tachometer, vibration sensors, Hall effect sensors and other instrumentation that tell me exactly what my wheel is doing. I have 3 different ways of imparting known and repeatable starting momentum to my disk. And I have another disk of the same dimensions (except thicker) made entirely of Acrylic Plastic.
And I can make that linkage swing magnets in any plane, horizontal or vertical, and I have many different kinds of stator magnets and mounts for them.

Well bully for you, TK.  That's fine and dandy.  It probably took a lot of money to get all of that, and you need to realize that most people out there just can't afford such an investment.  That's why I developed the Pipe Dream apparatus, which is inexpensive to build and can be built by anyone with a minimum of ordinary tools.  No machine shop operations are involved.  My main purpose is to allow everyone who wants to get involved in the Pipe Dream Project the ability to do so.  Besides, it makes a lot more sense if many people start with the same basic build.  That way, if something works well for one then it will work well for all.  If everyone has a different build and uses different materials and magnets then there is no way to accurately compare or verify results.

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 28, 2009, 06:09:17 AM
I am succeeding just fine, thank you. I can prove, using my apparatus, that ANY arrangement of magnets that you or anybody can come up with, will actually subtract energy from a spinning disk rather than add to it.

No, you can't prove jack diddley squat about my arrangements or methods with your apparatus.  The only way you can prove anything at all about these factors is by building my apparatus to specs and precisely following my procedures.

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 28, 2009, 06:09:17 AM
For example, on my wheel here's the runup-rundown profile of a pretty good magnet arrangement (non-articulated stator, Mylow configuration). Most others are much worse. Can you show any data from your rig that even hints at an improvement obtained by putting magnets on it?

I'll be happy to show you the data once I complete my tracking and timing mechanisms, and have no doubt whatsoever that the results will prove far more beneficial than any of the Mylow configurations.  By the way, did you include the fishing line in your Mylow configuration?  I would have to say that one thing about your Mylow configuration test made no sense at all, and that is the rate of rotor speed that you went to in your spin up.  Mylow's best speed results were at 90 rpm (and that was probably with the fishing line drive attached), so a spin-up faster than that gives you no useful and relative data about his configurations from your run down test.  Obviously the faster you spin up, the longer it will take to run down.  How long did it take to run down from 90 rpm?

I really can't get over the attack dog attitude that seems to prevail here, TK.  I applauded you for your efforts, complimented you on your machine work, encouraged you to continue your quest, and made a couple of simple and polite suggestions.  In turn, you get all huffy and jump all over me with your attack dog attitude.  Maybe you just had a bad day, and if that's the case then I'm sorry to hear that.  But with the constant barrage of flak that prevails here I really have to wonder about intentions.  Do you see me as a threat?  I'm not here to threaten anyone, or to cram anything down their throats.  You can like my apparatus and my methods, or you can despise them if you wish.  It really doesn't matter to me.  But if you don't like what you see then simply focus your efforts on a thread or project that you are interested in.  If we are all here for the same reason (in pursuit of energy independence) then wouldn't it be wiser to make helpful suggestions rather than uninvited and unwelcome attacks?  I think so, and extend a helping hand to anyone who cares to accept it.  Remember that I did not start this thread. I only came here by invitation and to answer questions from those who are truly interested in what I am doing.  I really don't have time for petty bickering and unproductive debates with others who have a different mindset and goals.  Therefore, I will not reply further to anyone unless their post shows earnest interest and is stated politely.

Best regards to those who are earnest and polite,

Rick   :)