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Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

Started by hartiberlin, May 28, 2009, 05:54:52 PM

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CRANKYpants

Quote from: hoptoad on June 09, 2009, 07:04:49 AM
Now your getting on the right track.
It is, however, still impedance dependant, but it is not the actual inductive reactance (impedance) that is the main factor, it is the resistance to inductive reactance (impedance) ratio of the coil that is more important. The lower, the better.

THIS INFO IS BALONEY - DON'T LISTEN TO IT...  :P
UNLESS YOU WANT SATURATED CORES.

THE IMPEDANCE HAS TO BE HIGH ENOUGH TO JUST "CHOKE" THE CURRENT AND CAUSE THE COIL TO ACT LIKE A CAPACITOR AND NOT AN INDUCTOR SO THE INDUCTIVE REACTANCE HAS TO BE HIGHER NOT LOWER.

THE RESISTANCE OF THE COIL SHOULD NOT BE TOO HIGH OR YOU WON'T GET A GOOD STRONG MAGNETIC FIELD WHEN THE COIL CAPACITANCE DISCHARGES.

YOU CAN AND SHOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MAGNETS ON YOUR ROTOR... THIS WILL INCREASE THE FREQUENCY AND INCREASE THE COIL IMPEDANCE AND DECREASE THE CURRENT ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THIS WILL GIVE YOU BETTER PERFORMANCE AT LOWER RPM RANGES.

QuoteYou are correct in your observation, that beyond a certain number of layers, the effect becomes redundant.

Each new layer on a coil adds more resistance than inductance to the coil as a whole, because the circumference of the windings is larger and therefore each winding is longer and more resistive.

THIS AS ALSO NOT RELEVANT HERE...  :-*

THE TRICK TO MAKING THE MULTI-LAYER COIL WORK IS TO MAKE SURE THE OUTER CORE LINES UP WITH OPPOSITE POLE MAGNETS, I.E.

S    OUTER COIL CORE

N    INNER COIL CORE

S    OUTER COIL CORE

THIS WAY WHEN THE INNER CORE DISCHARGES - IT DISCHARGES NORTH POLE FLUX INTO A CORE WHICH HAS A SOUTH POLE RECEDING.

A SOUTH POLE RECEDING = A NORTH POLE APPROACHING SO THE INNER DISCHARGING NORTH POLE FLUX ADDS TO SOUTH POLE RECEDING (NORTH POLE APPROACHING) FLUX AND DOES NOT SUBTRACT AS YOU ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING.
(BTW SUBTRACT IS THE WRONG WORD, IT OUGHT TO BE REDUCE THE NET CHANGE IN FLUX INSIDE THE COIL).

SO TRY ADDING MORE MAGNETS AND LINE UP THE CORES...

ALSO WHY USE HC COILS AT ALL?

WHY NOT JUST GO WITH INNER AND OUTER HV COILS AND STEP DOWN THE OUTPUT VIA A TRANSFORMER - THAT WAY IT'S ACCELERATION ALL ROUND.  ;)

NOW WHEN THE OUTER HV COIL DISCHARGES IT INCREASES THE INNER HV COIL ACCELERATION AND VOLTAGE AND VICEY-VERSY - NOW YOU CAN EVENTUALLY STEP DOWN BOTH INNER AND OUTER COILS AND GET GREAT RESULTS!

ONE FINAL THING...
TRY VARYING THE LOADS FROM A DEAD SHORT, 1 OHM, 10 OHM, 100 OHM, 1000 OHM ETC.
THEN PLACE MULTIPLE LOADS ON IN PARALLEL - THE CLOSER THE LOADS ARE TO A DEAD SHORT I.E. INFINITE LOADS IN PARALLEL THE GREATER THE ACCELERATION.

AND ALL KIDDING ASIDE YOU GUYS - REALLY GREAT JOB HERE!  :D

CHEERS AND BEST WISHES TO ALL!
T


baroutologos

Thanks Mr Heins for your intervention here.
We thought you were gone for good. In the good sense of course :P
I am happy to see you back.

By the way, as you know, learning is a difficult and long procedure. I knew for sure that 12 magnets were better than 6, but i wanted to investigate the effect from scratch.

So, what i learnt so far is that in order to extract some energy out of the
HV coils you must combine:

core material
magnets number-frequency-topology, field strength, magnetic flux manipulation
reactance (impedance+resistance balance)
Current from coils should go as much un-restrained as possible.
Restraining it, not only nulls accelaration but i found HV coil impedes the system as a normal HC coil. (need idepedent verification for that)
voltage produced & oscillating current considerations (am I need high voltage lower current or
the opposite?)

Its a riddle, is not it?

Anyway, i plan to procede slowly and post results after double check them.

Regards,
Baroutologos

minde4000

I am still having problems in finding the right size E cores. Need 4.1" lenght or something close to that to match lets say NSN (3 consecutive magnets) but nobody seem to have this large. Any links or directions would be appreciated. 
Thanks

Regrds Minde

baroutologos

Good morning from Athens (Greece) :D

Its time slowly slowly to get "pro".
...........................................................
Although i am happy at using primitive laquered soft iron wires as cores, i see there is little future in them.
Can anyone suggest any decent e-store that ships internationally so as to get laminated silicon-steel fingers? (I laminations)
Are there special bobins that can fit those I fingers? (i need the wire to be as close as i can to the iron core)

Regards,
Baroutologos

baroutologos