Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[hoptoad]

The HV effect (or Mr T. effect ) it seems to be an superficial one that happens on the surface of the iron that gets-magnetized/demagnetized constantly and be independent of the coil's impedance.

I firm believe (and i plan to prove it) that above a critical layer thickness over the iron core (that transfers the magnetic flux from magnet to windings) the surplus layers are just a burden, contributing at "loading the HV coil and diminishing the effect.

On the other hand, for that critical layer height that there is an active magnetization/demagnetization action you must have an "sufficient" number of turns to easily initiate the event. The more, the easier.(lower rpm initiation, higher voltage generation, lower oscillating current and vice versa)

You can now understand what i suggest by observation.

But, i need you people to verify or invalidate that so as all to be on the same side.

Regards,
Baroutologos

Now your getting on the right track.
It is, however, still impedance dependant, but it is not the actual inductive reactance (impedance) that is the main factor, it is the resistance to inductive reactance (impedance) ratio of the coil that is more important. The lower, the better.

You are correct in your observation, that beyond a certain number of layers, the effect becomes redundant.

Each new layer on a coil adds more resistance than inductance to the coil as a whole, because the circumference of the windings is larger and therefore each winding is longer and more resistive.

The ratio of resistance to inductance added by each new winding gets higher with each new layer.

Cheers

[baroutologos]

Now your getting on the right track.
It is, however, still impedance dependant, but it is not the actual inductive reactance (impedance) that is the main factor, it is the resistance to inductive reactance (impedance) ratio of the coil that is more important.

Geez Hoaptod!

I saw my mistake and modify it, but you managed to reply before modification. Yes, indeed is impedance dependent (see corrected article) but only it matters inside the magnetization-demagnetization zone, as far as i can tell.

regards,
Baroutologos

[baroutologos]

An anomaly in contrast to Mr Heins experiments
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My first working HV coil i modified it. On the circumference i added thick iron wire so as to make another iron "core".
On top of the wire i added some 3-4 ohms HC coil that is wound with 22AWG.

When rotor full speed (1100rpm) it outpus some 12vAC. When shorted no matter what rpm i obtain it slows down the system.

But, when the underlying HV coil is shorted then the HC coil output diminishes to 3-4 vac instead of boosting it. Thane managed by having an HV coil shorted to boost an overlying HC coil's output.


In my setupnot the case. Perhaps my poor topology is to be attributed for this.

Regards,
Baroutologos 

[i_ron]

Re read (if you have already) the experiment outlined on my website:
       http://www.totallyamped.net/adams
Read page 10 for the experiment and read page 11 for the explanation of results.

Your observations regarding rpm and load values are already covered on page 10 using incremental steps in loading and showing in graphical form what the expected result will be.

Cheers

Toad that hops,

Thanks for putting up your link here. For those that have not reviewed this information I must add that HT (hop toad) has had this information up well before TH (thane heins)

It is very germane to the discussion. That said I admit my attempt at replication of hoppies work (BT =before thane) was so dis similar that my results were also, lol I must try this one day and stick to the design more closely.

To understand Mr T's work, do this experiment first.

Welcome to the list Toad, I am sure you will receive a better response here than on the previous list....

Ron

[i_ron]

An anomaly in contrast to Mr Heins experiments
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Regards,
Baroutologos

Baroutologos,

What I find amazing is the great job your pulse motor is doing for you! I like it.

Ron