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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

Started by hartiberlin, May 28, 2009, 05:54:52 PM

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baroutologos

Hey wattup.

If i am not mistaken, you suggest air-core coils for drag alleviation, yet stronger magnets/ higher rpm speeds for manifesting the effect... who knows? But mechanical setups are beyond my reach plus too expensive to really experiment with...

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I have been thinking some time ago, but did not give it a try, to make it the Perepiteia effect solid state and study it. I mean what actualy the magnet does anyway?
It creates an alternating polarity magnetic field. Nothing else. The same hold true for a transformer core or toroid with two windings.

i do not know if the effect is preserved this way. That above a certain frequency and certain turns of a coil, a transformer can manifest this effect. If not rest assure it has only to do with cogging torque elimination as primarily suspected.

If not, the same scheme can be further be enhanced by making a multiturns (mutlifillar i suggest for higher amperage yet having the effect) secondary and a normal primary transformer ala Tesla type going to KHz rate.
But my hopes are low this way, because I have conducted some preliminary resonance experiments with a multifilar coil that manifested the Perepiteia effect. Under resonance the effect is NOT manifested and it acts as a normal coil.

Anyway, it does not hurt to try a solid state approach anyway i guess.
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Concerning the diode-plug extracting energy. I have been tried that extensively. see www.energetiforum.com, renewable energy and examine the Kromrey convertor thread.
I have actually made 2 cap-banks for cap adjustment and 2 diode plugs with theri own voltage sensors -optocoupler-SCR.

Nothing there. No OU.

wattsup

@lespaul109

Yes I am familiar with that circuit but in this case it would not be useful since there are not two polarities applied per coil but only one. A single diode exiting each coil at the right polarity end each should do it.

PS: Don't tell me. based on your user name you own a nice Gibson. lol

@baroutologos

Thanks for you kind reply. I know what you are saying is very true in the cases you mentioned.

I already have an alternator-motor-drive set-up so just to experiment with the general premise, I can test this by just modifying the alternator stator coils by removing them from the standard rectifier, putting the coils separate, dioding each one separate, then trying it with the drive motor. I have already tried the standard motor-alternator driving with this and already know the results are very bad so this way I can make a fair comparison with all coils dioded separately. Actually I can maybe bring out all the coil wires and put them on a switching system with standard rectifier and separate dioding and see the difference in real time. But I already know the effect of the later.

I have also thought about taking an alternator rotor, drilling the rotor triangles that push the polarities with one round whole each and placing a neo magnet in each hole according to their proper polarity then trying to generate juice. The mix of the existing rotor coil and magnets should make some real special effects added to a modifed stator.

Imagine if with a standard alternator and modified coils/diodes/rotor if this can work how easy it would be to get this out to the world. This is another angle of mine is trying to find easy workable solutions with what is already out there in order to speed the usage process, if in fact there is anything there.

Keep well.

wattsup

lespaul109

@mr. Watt
It seems to me that there would be an AC sine wave from the coils, if the magnets are NSNS

p.s.- Had to sell the lespaul ;)

petersone

Hi lespaul109
I wish I had sold my old 60's 335,before it was pinched!!
peter

i_ron

Quote from: wattsup on March 25, 2010, 10:00:49 AM
@lespaul109

Yes I am familiar with that circuit but in this case it would not be useful since there are not two polarities applied per coil but only one. A single diode exiting each coil at the right polarity end each should do it.
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Wattsup,

The flaw in your all one polarity magnets facing out is this... one pole will generate a sine wave.

What causes the polarity of a coil is the DIRECTION of travel between the magnet and the coil. When the magnet approaches the coil it generates one polarity and when the magnet recedes it produces the opposite polarity.

Simple as that. We went over and over this point as even Mr T didn't get it.

Go back and look at my single magnet, single coil in the lathe and you can see that is always the case. There were several animated gifs posted also.

Now when you have a N S arrangement the coil/magnet spacing determines the shape of the sine wave as the N magnet pole is receding from the last coil it is generating say a positive sine and as it is approaching the next coil it is generating a positive sine and as the coils are wired anti phase the trick is to get this same sine to overlap and add. This is why a properly designed NSNS generator delivers twice the power

It is an impossibility to have positive coils on one side and negative coils on the other.

Kind regards

Ron P