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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

Started by hartiberlin, May 28, 2009, 05:54:52 PM

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Pageygeeza

Right, this is weird. I've assembled a makeshift motor:  Even though the magnets and coils are facing the same direction I would have thought I would be generating DC when I take the drive power off, but I'm generating AC.  From what I can see, the coils are pushing power in both directions.

I'm now confused

baroutologos

Impedance Contribution to Mr. T. effect.
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I was analysing the collected data so far from my noobish experiment. Note that concrete findings could not be enstablised but are good indicators for experiementing orientation.

So, topic is Impedance here. How much does affect the HV coils accelaration threshold?

We all know that with few turns of wire say 10 ( ;D) over a given core, one should never hope to achieve accelaration, unless rotor speed reaches astronomical speeds. So impedance is a key part of the process. Hence, the coil should have "enough turns" so as the mr T phainomenon to manifest easily.

But, in real life setups, impedance comes with resistance. As I discussed in previous replies i have been experimenting with 2 coils. Using software "coil maestro" i calculated coils impedances. By no means those are the actual values since i use iron wires with too much spacing between them. But, it is a good indicator of the actual coil's impedances.

restating
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coil 1: height 55mm, core opening 13mm, R  = 75 ohms (of 0.3mm wire), 8mm layer thickness
At 110 Hz (1100 rotor speed) accellarates and produces 105+vAC and 0.13A current at short. Impedance around 100mH (indication)

coil 2: same phisical dimensions, R = 110+ ohms same wire, 11mm layer thickness. At 110 Hz it deccellarates while producing 120+Vac and 0.085A current at short. Impedance around 200mH (indication)

Why is that?
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Why the coil B deccellarates at 110 Hz whereas it must accellarate from, say, 90 Hz? Note that i do not talk about accellaration's power. I talk about even the manifestation of accellaration itself.

My conclusions
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Impedance is necessary, but it must be carefully balanced to the resistance produced. Because not only a higher impedance with a consequent  higher resistance will give poorer accelaration, but, but maybe won't give accellaration at all and break the system.

From results so far I think Hoaptod has right in his claims. It is the impedance to resistance ratio that makes the difference in power generation terms.

regards,
Baroutologos

Pageygeeza

Right, still can't figure it out, but.....

Using 5 of my DIY coils and the 18v Drill battery, it's getting a trifle dangerous.  As the high speed is making the magnets pop out.  I really need to find the rpm of that blasted thing.

hoptoad

A diversity of physical configurations can manifest the acceleration effect.

Heres one of many other differing designs with the same effect, though the configuration is markedly different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_LsOyEchrA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LfjLwLAJUY&feature=related

Note that in his second experiment he is stepping up the output voltage, not stepping down.

Cheers

minde4000

@Baroutologos

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Minde