Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[CRANKYpants]

Yes Larry, you were right.

However it has a rather mundane explanation when examined.

Ron P

BACK TO RULE #1

NEVER - EVER BELIEVE ANYTHING ANYONE EVER SAYS WITHOUT SEEING IT FIRSTHAND.
AND WATCH OUT FOR MIG'S

I_RON'S EVER PERSISTENT BLINDSPOT HAS TO DO WITH CORE LOSSES RATHER THAN ARMATURE REACTION (LENZ'S LAW) IN A CONVENTIONAL HC GENERATOR vs THE HV GENERATOR.

NOW THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IN THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT ALL GENERATORS HAVE CORES.AND SINCE ALL GENERATORS HAVE CORE LOSSES WE CAN LOGICALLY ELIMINATE THE COMMON DENOMINATOR I.E. CORES AND CORE LOSSES.

WHAT'S LEFT?

ARMATURE REACTION.

LAST VIDEO CONVENTIONAL ARMATURE REACTION = DECELERATION OUTPUT = 7 WATTS.

HV COIL ARMATURE REACTION = ACCELERATION OUTPUT = 38 WATTS + 7 CONVETIONAL WATTS = 45 WATTS.

CONCLUSION

IT ONLY TAKES 7 WATTS OF CONVENTIONAL POWER TO DECELERATE THE ROTOR

BUT

38 WATTS OF REGENERATIVE ACCELERATIVE POWER CAN BE OBTAINED IN NON CONVENTIONAL MODE.

IN ADDITION

THE DECELERATIVE CONVENTIONAL 7 WATTS CAN BE OVERIDDEN BY THE ACCELERATIVE 38 WATTS GIVING A TOAL OUTPUT OF 45 WATTS.

ALL GENERATORS HAVE CORES AND CORE LOSSES = NON ISSUE

NOT ALL GENERATORS ACCELERATE UNDER LOAD - IN FACT CONVENTIONALLY THE GREATER THE LOAD THE GREATER THE DECELERATION.

WHEREAS THE GREATER THE LOAD IN THE PEREPITEIA GENERATOR THE GREATER THE ACCELERATION.

MIG = MEN IN GREY

T


PS

SEE LETTER SOMALOY CORE MAKER FOR SAMPLE REQUEST...
SOMALY CORES ARE DESIGNED TO OPERATE IN THE KHZ REGION.

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Andersson Ola <Ola.Andersson@hoganas.com> wrote:

From: Andersson Ola <Ola.Andersson@hoganas.com>
Subject: SV: Request for Motor Core Samples
To: thane_heins@yahoo.ca
Cc: "Hofecker Paul" <paul.hofecker@nah.com>
Received: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 11:30 AM

Dear Thane

Thank you for the interest in our materials.

I must confess I do not full understand the Regenerative Acceleration Technology from the presentation that was sent to us.

However, I am interested in knowing why you believe the Somaloy technology is suited for you application.

Normally the Somaloy technology brings benefit to the application if the flux is moving in 3D and/or if the magnetic cores see a high frequency field (kHz level).

Ola

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Från: Howe Ian
Skickat: den 9 juni 2009 16:13
Till: thane_heins@yahoo.ca; Andersson Ola
Kopia: kcunningham@ocri.ca; Hofecker Paul; Nandivada Nagarjuna
Ã,,mne: FW: Request for Motor Core Samples

Dear Thane

As I am on vacation I am forwarding your request to Mr Ola Andersson, one of my colleagues who is based in Sweden .

Ola will be in touch soon with recommendations

Thanks & BR
Ian

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From: Thane C. Heins [mailto:thane_heins@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:34 PM
To: Howe Ian
Cc: kcunningham@ocri.ca
Subject: Request for Motor Core Samples

Dear Ian,

Please find enclosed a Power Point Presentation of our Regenerative Acceleration Technology that we are developing at the University of Ottawa, Canada.

We would like to employ your Somaloy Cores in our motor/generator.

Please advise us on how we can go about this.

Sincerely
Thane

[derricka]

I too, (since day 1) have considered the possibility, that Thane's extra energy was a mirage caused by loss mitigation, rather than by actual energy capture. However, in an energy hungry world, even reducing loss, frees up energy that can be put to good use elsewhere.
I follow this thread out of curiosity, to see how far Thane will be able to take his idea, and for amusement (debates, jokes etc.)  As for the Perepiteia, the acid test for Thane, will be the cost efficiency of his generator, compared with today's standard, commercially available generators. If it can produce higher efficiency, at similar, or lower production cost, it can be a winner, regardless of being overunity.  Finally, if Thane keeps adding coils as promised, we will find the true role of core loss effects, one way or the other.  I for one, wouldn't want Thane to stop, just when things are getting interesting!

[LarryC]

I too, (since day 1) have considered the possibility, that Thane's extra energy was a mirage caused by loss mitigation, rather than by actual energy capture. However, in an energy hungry world, even reducing loss, frees up energy that can be put to good use elsewhere.
I follow this thread out of curiosity, to see how far Thane will be able to take his idea, and for amusement (debates, jokes etc.)  As for the Perepiteia, the acid test for Thane, will be the cost efficiency of his generator, compared with today's standard, commercially available generators. If it can produce higher efficiency, at similar, or lower production cost, it can be a winner, regardless of being overunity.  Finally, if Thane keeps adding coils as promised, we will find the true role of core loss effects, one way or the other.  I for one, wouldn't want Thane to stop, just when things are getting interesting!

I did some early testing with the transformer (bad results, but my fault) and then the AC motor HV and HC coil setup. It did work as Thane stated and posted results, but I never really new for sure why, as I had nothing better than a multimeter and Thane had a series of different theories back then.

Now, Thane has a very well equipped lab and probably some access to information from students and a few Doctorates in the Physics and Engineering area at OU. I'm sure this has helped narrow down and refine the current theory.

@Thane, yes, people should test, but most don't have any of the equipment in your lab. So, just for us individuals who have electronic equipment challenges, could you please show an OS shot with TDC marks or any other supporting data?

Regards, Larry
   

[CRANKYpants]

As for the Perepiteia, the acid test for Thane, will be the cost efficiency of his generator, compared with today's standard, commercially available generators. If it can produce higher efficiency, at similar, or lower production cost, it can be a winner, regardless of being overunity.  Finally, if Thane keeps adding coils as promised, we will find the true role of core loss effects, one way or the other.  I for one, wouldn't want Thane to stop, just when things are getting interesting!

POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE INC. REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION POWER POINT PRESENTATION.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5F0UHET4

CHEERS
T

[CRANKYpants]

Now, Thane has a very well equipped lab and probably some access to information from students and a few Doctorates in the Physics and Engineering area at OU. I'm sure this has helped narrow down and refine the current theory.

NO HELP FROM STUDENTS OR PROFS - JUST CORRECTION IF THE LOGIC IS CLEARLY OFF.

@Thane, yes, people should test, but most don't have much of the equipment in your lab. So, just for us individuals who have electronic equipment challenges, could you please show an OS shot with TDC marks or any other supporting data?

Regards, Larry

PRETTY HARD TO POST A TDC SHOT AT 3200 RPM - BUT I WILL POST SOME SCOPE SHOTS.

GO BACK TO I_RONS SCOPE SHOT AND SEE HOW THE HV COIL PRODUCES A SPIKED PULSE RATHER THAN A GRADUAL SINE WAVE.

STAY TUNED FOR SOME SILLY-SCOPE SHOTS - BUT CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO WORK IT FIRST PLEASE?

THANKS
T