Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[Kator01]

Hi I_ron,

yes this is quite intersting...but where is the hall-switch located ?

I only can estimete from looking at your picture that you placed it at the end of the coil which would then be the opposite polarity.
Do I understand it correcty that you already reversed the polarity in your analysis ?

I know it is a bit tricky but is there  a possibilty to place the hallswitch in a slot situated in front-face of the core ?

I mean just reverse a value in our imagination does possibly not reflect the reality of what is goin on.

Best Regards

Kator01

[i_ron]

Hi I_ron,

yes this is quite intersting...but where is the hall-switch located ?

I only can estimete from looking at your picture that you placed it at the end of the coil which would then be the opposite polarity.
Do I understand it correcty that you already reversed the polarity in your analysis ?

I know it is a bit tricky but is there  a possibilty to place the hallswitch in a slot situated in front-face of the core ?

I mean just reverse a value in our imagination does possibly not reflect the reality of what is goin on.

Best Regards

Kator01

The picture that shows the location is the last picture in post 245

The probe is at the end of the core. When the north pole is opposite the core the close end becomes a south and the probe end becomes a north.

The first picture is with the coil open... the second picture is with the coil shorted. Nothing reversed in my imagination. Just a pictorial representation of two switch positions. One with the north pole as indicated by the upper trace being on the TDC line the second with the TDC line over the southpole.

The gauss meter outputs a positive number for a north pole and a negative number for a south pole. The "T1" marker is set to the bottom traces TDC. Just follow up this line to see which pole is "in line"

That is why I asked for all to do this test also to see if my test was incorrect. With the probe at the magnet end the reading will be dominated by the magnet and not indicative of the core.

Ron

[Kator01]

I_Ron,

this phase shift reminds me of the behaviour of a coupled two-oscillator system ( very well known in mechanical and High-frequency systems ).
I will try to find an information in the web to post it here.
But basically it goes like this :

Two systems which have the same properties ( in this case = resonance-frequency ) are coupled. One system is permanetly triggered to oscillate at its resonance-frequency taking the second system with it.

Now when you sweep up the frequnecy of system 1 all of a sudden system 2 moves in a 180 Deg phase-shift as its original resonance-frequency acts like an inertia factor.
Please not that this also occures in coupling two hf-lc-tanks where one is swept up past its resonance state.

What you could do is to make readings of this loaded ( or shorted coil ) with different rotation-speed ( starting from lets say 800 up to 1800 rot/min) in order to find out if there is a critical speed where this phase-shift occurs and repeat this with different loads.

I am sorry I_ron but I do not have your means to test all this so I can not confirm or negate any of your findings. I only can put in here some ideas which come to my mind when I see your work here.

Thank you for all your effort.

Best Regards

Kator01

[i_ron]

I_Ron,
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I am sorry I_ron but I do not have your means to test all this so I can not confirm or negate any of your findings. I only can put in here some ideas which come to my mind when I see your work here.

Thank you for all your effort.

Best Regards

Kator01

You are welcome,  your remarks are generally knowledgeable, on target and appreciated.

Ron

[Pageygeeza]

Well, after finally getting the motor rigged up, thought I'd do a test.

using the same amount of magnets on the motor and the generator, I found that the motor can produce more ac per rpm than the generator.  And even funnily enough, when shorted, the motor produces more than the generator when shorted. :S