Stan Meyer Energy is Stolen from The Sun

[alan]

Ok let's start with some simple questions a noob like I can't answer:

why won't the electron collapse into the proton, since they attract each other? [mutually generated and repelling EM fields?]
If an electron is transfered to a higher energy level, how does a photon force it outwards and what is keeping it over there? [does it at all stay there?]
or does a photon increase the charge of an electron or proton, and as a result get more mutually repelled by the force thats keeping them separated?


now, is it possible to alter the electron orbit by voltage? [absolutely, aka displacement current.]
can this alter the energy level by forcing the electrons to a higher orbit, without electron collision taking place [like a fluorescent light]?
is it possible to create a charge that is interlocked and has no path to flow away?
million dollar question:
is it possible for this charge to create a displacement current without this dipole being broken down by the EM fields created by the displacement current?

[Farrah Day]

Alan

why won't the electron collapse into the proton, since they attract each other?

Now you're asking the questions that I don't believe science knows the answers to.  The same thing applies to planets orbiting the sun... why doesn't the gravitational force of the sun simply suck us in... or is it very slowly?

The electron has an energy that keeps it in orbit around the nucleus, and we know that if it gives up some of that energy it's orbiting distance will reduce (if there is a vacancy), but it seems an electron will always contain the minimum amount of energy to maintain an orbit.  This energy seems to be the nature by which our universe functions, a fundamental energy that exists... always... but what do I know!

I think the answer to your question is yet to be understood by anyone... except maybe Quarky 

I don't think voltage can effect an electrons orbit, it has to be a photon particle. Voltage is only potential energy, a photon is a particle of energy. It is the electron that absorbs or emits a photon in order to make a transition between energy levels. Every electron energy level in every atom requires a specific discrete amount of energy to make a transition, this is why only photons of certain frequencies are absorbed or emitted by orbiting electrons. Incidentaly, if an outer electron absorbs too much energy it can free itself from the atom altogether, and, I believe, in this state the electron is free to attain much higher energy levels.

is it possible to create a charge that is interlocked and has no path to flow away?
million dollar question:
is it possible for this charge to create a displacement current without this dipole being broken down by the EM fields created by the displacement current?

Not sure what you mean by this. The charges on the plate of a capacitor or a Van de Graf generator are static until discharged. Have no idea about your million dollar question.

Though, I must say that I don't think this depth of understanding is particularly necessary to make progress in the field that concerns us here. 

As I said, for a better understanding study the work of Bohr, and hope your brain can take it all in without your head exploding!

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I like where this thread is going now...  There must be a ton of literature about this very subject. What  will we find?

And Meyer's version...  http://waterpoweredcar.com/pdf.files/section5.pdf

Tesla's version... http://rpmgt.org/588177.html

Rife/Bedini... http://www.icehouse.net/john34/rife.html

Old School... http://www.levity.com/alchemy/

[newbie123]

The electron has an energy that keeps it in orbit around the nucleus, and we know that if it gives up some of that energy it's orbiting distance will reduce (if there is a vacancy), but it seems an electron will always contain the minimum amount of energy to maintain an orbit.  This energy seems to be the nature by which our universe functions, a fundamental energy that exists... always... but what do I know!

From my understanding Nature gets really, really,  strange at the atomic scale (nothing like our macro scale)....    For example,  electrons have been shown to not really orbit around the nucleus like a planet and a sun.      Atomic electrons actually stay in what is referred to as an orbital   or "probability" cloud...   (explained by the Heisenberg uncertainty principle) ... 

They (electrons) can show up anywhere around the nucleus, and even inside the nucleus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture) at times, or even multiple locations at once..          This was the big  problem with classical electrodynamics... It didn't account for this behavior.     According to classical electrodynamics the electrons should just crash into their nucleus..  But this isn't the case (luckily) ..  So some really bright physicists came up with  Quantum Electro Dynamics  .. Which models an electron's behavior accurately.

The the shape of the orbital and energy levels can be described and predicted by the schrodinger equation  (which basically replaced the Bohr model..  And made it obsolete)..   

Also,   electrons also have a property known as  quantum  spin, as do photons,  and quarks....   and as far as I know this phenomena cannot be described in physical terms  (none mathematical) ..  i.e.   quantum spin isn't like a spinning planet..

[Farrah Day]

From my understanding Nature gets really, really,  strange at the sub atomic scale (nothing like our macro scale)....    For example,  electrons have been shown to not really orbit around around the nucleus like a planet and a sun.      Atomic electrons stay in what is referred to as an orbital   or "probability" cloud...   

Yes, the probability cloud makes Bohrs depiction of the atom look like something from a junior school blackboard. This is a further development from Bohr in terms of how the electrons behave. Enter Austrian physicist Erwin Schrodinger, and move from quantum theory to quantum mechanics. Whereby the action of simply looking at something will affect the result... mind-bogling stuff.

Alan, also read up on the work of Schrodinger.