There is no Over Unity

[newbie123]

Magnets alone can not perform work just like gravity.....   

If you pull two magnets apart, you then have a potential energy that can be realized  once  you release the magnets and they come together.   Gravity is the same way..  A rock on the ground is affected by gravity  but doesn't have energy...   Pick it up off the ground, then it has potential energy... Release it.. then there is the work/energy when it hits the ground..    It is the changes within these fields on an object (electrons in a wire, or a rock on a hill, etc)... That creates energy..   Some examples:

Lenz's law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law

Changing magnetic fields will induce a current (move electrons) within a wire.

The hall effect is interesting as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect

[IronShell3d]

Take one of your favorite neo magnets and set it in the center of a wooden table all by itself. Where's the H field? How can it do any work?

Hi NewBie123,

Put a battery in the centre of the table. How can it do any work?

You do need to put the energy source in contact with a load for work to be done.

When a magnet's H field encounters the unaligned magnetic domains in a nearby ferrite and causes them to become magnetically aligned, where do you think the energy that overcame the Hysteresis losses involved in the ferrite's domain alignment process came from?

It came from the magnet's Iron atoms 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons.

When you release a ferrite close by a magnet and the magnet and the ferrite are drawn to each other, where did the energy come from that caused the physical movement that caused them to become in contact?

It came from the magnet's Iron atoms 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons.

Do you understand why when you put two identical magnets facing say S/S and then facing say S/N an equal distance apart, the repelling and attraction forces are different?

IronShell3d

[IronShell3d]

Magnets alone can not perform work just like gravity

Hi Newbie123.

Correct.

But place the magnet near a ferrite and it will do work in overcoming Hysteresis losses during the ferrite's domain alignment process and in causing physical movement that attracts the two together.

This is something gravity can't do and so lets agree that the two "Forces" are very different in this way. Gravity can not induce physical changes in a ferrite and a magnet can.

IronShell3d

[IronShell3d]

Changing magnetic fields will induce a current (move electrons) within a wire.

Hi NewBie123,

You need to ask yourself why a changing magnetic field density will cause an outer shell copper atom electron to leave it's orbit and move to take up a place in the outer shell of a nearby copper atom. Why will it not do this with a non changing magnetic field. Why must the field density change?

I mean free electrons are easily controlled and directed with a static magnetic field. That is how a old style CRT based TV deflection system works as well as very big atom smashers.

Why then does the outer shell electron in a copper wire need a changing magnetic field density to get movement and current flow?

IronShell3d

[X00013]

@ Ironshell3d,  so how do I build it?