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[IronShell3d]

Changing magnetic fields will induce an electric current in wire   ...  That's just the way nature is.

Hi NewBie123,

What I asked you was to think about why this happens?

A non changing magnetic field can and does cause electrons to move. So why don't the electrons in a copper wire move when the wire is exposed to a non changing magnetic field? Why must the magnetic field density change to get electron movement in a wire when free electrons will move when exposed to a non changing magnetic field?

Start thinking outside the square if you want to find what you seek.

IronShell3d

[IronShell3d]

1) Do you have a estimate of how long this stored energy source will last if it is tapped, and what happens to the magnet when it is depleted? 

2) Have you successfully made any devices to extract energy from a permanent magnet?

3) How did you make this discovery?

1) The real question is now many Joules are there per cm3 of Iron as reference the 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons per Iron atom.

2) Yes. Have explained one way to do it.

3) Basics physics.

IronShell3d

[Doug1]

Why must the magnetic field density change to get electron movement in a wire when free electrons will move when exposed to a non changing magnetic field?

  It's always in a state of change there is a deficit when it is converted to work which is allowing the flow to continue.With out the "it" having a place to go or fill or wiggle back and forth there is nothing but a shinny string or two with a machine or source of electron storage on one end doing nothing.Tesla's energy sink.

[newbie123]

Hi NewBie123,

What I asked you was to think about why this happens?

I know exactly what happens to ferromagnetic lattice  in a magnetic field, but I'm having  hard time figuring out what you are trying to say.    It seems like you think you've come up with a  way to harness an electrons orbital spin energy (btw, spin and quantum physics isn't anything like our world)  ...   Which, if true,  AFAIK is a brand new concept in science...  So, I have serious doubts that you can actually do this by heating up  magnets and putting them in a coil, or as you previously described  .

But an experiment is far more valuable than a theory on this,  so why don't you show us a 'simple' demonstration rather than a thought experiment.

a magnetic field can and does cause electrons to move. So why don't the electrons in a copper wire move when the wire is exposed to a non changing magnetic field? Why must the magnetic field density change to get electron movement in a wire when free electrons will move when exposed to a non changing magnetic field?

In order for electrons to be affected by a magnetic field they need to be moving through it (have a relative velocity between the field and electron) 

If you have a vacuum tube full of electrons, you can't put a magnet next to it and watch electrons zip around in circles..  That's not how it works.

But if you have a magnetic field, and you're shooting an electron beam at it  the electrons' path will curve depending on the strength of the magnetic field.

As seen here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Cyclotron_motion.jpg

The curve, and how an electron or point charge will behave in a magnetic field can be determined with the Lorentz equation, seen here  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force

[IronShell3d]

Why must the magnetic field density change to get electron movement in a wire when free electrons will move when exposed to a non changing magnetic field?

  It's always in a state of change there is a deficit when it is converted to work which is allowing the flow to continue.With out the "it" having a place to go or fill or wiggle back and forth there is nothing but a shinny string or two with a machine or source of electron storage on one end doing nothing.Tesla's energy sink.

Hi Doug1,

Lets talk real physics that can be demoed anywhere. Take a transformer. Apply DC to the primary. What comes out of the secondary? This is not a trick question. You may need to do this with a scope and load resistor attached to the secondary so you can observe what happens. What happens may not be what you think.

IronShell3d