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New TPU build

Started by Farrah Day, June 14, 2009, 07:13:39 AM

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newbie123

Quote from: BEP on June 23, 2009, 11:59:55 PM
An X-Shaped wave has a real-world existence already. NASA calls it 'magnetic reconnection'. I doubt the pin-heads have made the connection  :D

You don't need to build an X-shaped wave to make a wave faster than c. Head-on collisions are just easier for most to understand.

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Oh! BTW: An X-shaped wave wouldn't travel faster than c. The X shape allows for disconnection then reconnection. Faster than c travel happens to anything in the way of the reconnection, sometimes called a 'slap' or 'clap'.

Well, I was hoping you'd answer my questions   :D...    But a good reference will work.  Do you have a reference for the above?
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

BEP

Quote from: newbie123 on June 24, 2009, 12:35:58 AM
Well, I was hoping you'd answer my questions   :D...    But a good reference will work.  Do you have a reference for the above?

Oh. One of those.  ;)

Yes I do. One of them is mine.

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This is not one but probably more relevant to a TPU....

http://www.physorg.com/news88249076.html
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Past experiments have demonstrated that the group velocities of other materials’ componentsâ€"such as optical, microwave, and electrical pulsesâ€"can exceed the speed of light. But while the individual spectral components of these pulses have velocities very close to c, the components of sound waves are almost six orders of magnitude slower than light (compare 340 m/s to 300,000,000 m/s).

“All of the interest in fast (and slow) wave velocity for all types of waves (optical, electrical, and acoustic) was initially to gain a fundamental understanding of the characteristics of wave propagation,” Robertson told PhysOrg.com. “Phase manipulation can change the phase relationship between these materials’ components. Using sound to create a group velocity that exceeds the speed of light is significant here because it dramatically illustrates this point, due to the large difference between the speeds of sound and light.”

The experiment was conducted by two undergrads, an area high school teacher and two high school students, who received funding by an NSF STEP (Science, technology, engineering, math Talent Enhancement Program) grant. The grant aims to increase recruitment and retention of students to these subjects.

In their experiment, the researchers achieved superluminal sound velocity by rephasing the spectral components of the sound pulses, which later recombine to form an identical-looking part of the pulse much further along within the pulse. So it’s not the actual sound waves that exceed c, but the waves’ “group velocity,” or the “length of the sample divided by the time taken for the peak of a pulse to traverse the sample.”

“The sound-faster-than-light result will not be a surprise to the folks who work closely in this area because they recognize that the group velocity (the velocity that the peak of a pulse moves) is not merely connected to the velocity of all of the frequencies that superpose to create that pulse,” explained Robertson, “but rather to the manner in which a material or a filter changes the phase relationship between these components. By appropriate phase manipulation (rephasing) the group velocity can be increased or decreased.”

Like I said.... Everything is relative.

On the references relating to X waves.... I read about them in a library about 25 years ago. The magnetic reconnection is very recent. Google it. They accepted PayPal. There we three theories last count. I doubt a single one of the theorists have every smacked crossing magnetic fields together.

newbie123

mmmkay... 

I'm starting see  why there are over 20k TPU related posts on this site,  and so few  productive/informative discussions.

Farrah Day,

Good Luck!
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

Goat

I've been watching and keeping out of this subject for a very long time in order to analyze people's progress without intervention.

Did anyone ever produce any physical verifiable proof that the TPU is achievable in construction and can light even a 1 Watt lamp given a smaller Watt input? 

The suspense is killing me!  If anyone in the last 20K posts has found something even close to this please let me know.

Last year I witnessed a live UFO and ever since then my core life beliefs have been really been badly shaken...I believe in just about anything you could throw at me after seeing that...LOL...but in the end I'm afraid I need to see things to believe it...show me Watts in vs Watts out and I'll take notice.

So if anyone has any TPU that can produce electricity please let us know otherwise I will continue to listen and not really believe  :P

Regards,
Paul 

Farrah Day

Personally I think it would be a good idea to keep an open mind as to the energy source of a TPU, as we are all only suggesting theories at present - any one of which may apply in full or part... or not at all.  It may well be easier to disprove certain theories when a TPU is up and running, than trying to prove theories on paper beforehand.

Like you stated in the past Newbie, at quantum level physics as we know it does not necessarily apply, as things appear to become a little 'weird'. And, let's face it, quantum theory and quantum mechanics are relatively new disciplines of science with much yet to be discovered and much more yet to be understood.

BEP, that link you provided is interesting, but hard to assimilate. They appear to be getting something out EVEN before they put something in. I suspect that something is not right here as surely the issue is no longer speed but time. Aren't they effectively seeing an event which has not yet occured? 

On a different note, has anyone any views on why 3 collector coils are used by SM. Is it simply to allow different configurations of ouput voltage, or is there a more fundamental reason behind this?

GK, by way of a follow on from Goaties thread above, I see you have numerous U-tube videos and a couple of threads a mile long. However, I was wondering if you can tell me whether or not you have been able to replicate SM's effect with your TPU device... without me having to trawl through hundreds of pages to find the answer.

Have you been able to power up a few mains light bulbs from your TPU?  Is your collector coil delivering more power than your control coils are feeding it?

A simple answer would be appreciated. 

No need for proof of workings, cryptic messages or poetry, but you can elaborate on a simple 'yes' or 'no' - just thinking ahead.

Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"