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New TPU build

Started by Farrah Day, June 14, 2009, 07:13:39 AM

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Farrah Day

QuoteBut if the magnet was just used to "kick start" the current flow, and not a key component..   Why wouldn't he just brush the magnet over the coil?   And why would removing the magnet stop the current flow?

Nb, I'd not thought too hard about it, just threw it into the pot. To be honest I don't trust the generally accepted SM TPU design one iota... or anything that the supposed SM stated.

But I like the idea of an induction motor whereby the electrons are the armature providing the drive power.
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

newbie123

Quote from: Farrah Day on June 29, 2009, 01:49:13 PM

But I like the idea of an induction motor whereby the electrons are the armature providing the drive power.

Interesting thought.. I'm going try to figure out the gyroscopic claim later.  If it's possible for electrons to have a circular flow faster than mms/s   w/o vaporizing the circuit, your theory might be a good one.

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

wings

Quote from: newbie123 on June 29, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
Interesting circuit.    But if the magnet was just used to "kick start" the current flow, and not a key component..   Why wouldn't he just brush the magnet over the coil?   And why would removing the magnet stop the current flow?

http://www.youtube.com/v/SMy04e0M0ec
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-28365-0.html&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight

http://www.dos4ever.com/ring/ring.html




Farrah Day

Add this to what we suspect might be happening and things start to look a lot more promising:

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_13/7.html

I accept that nothing here explains any kind of ZPE element that SM's TPU might well be tapping into in order to exhibit apparent OU, but it is a very down-to-earth place to start.
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

Farrah Day

Hi Loner, thanks.

Though I may well be way off the mark, this is my take on things so far.

If we liken SM's device to a polyphase induction motor, but instead of providing the stator with out of phase sinewaves, we pulse the coils at a much higher frequency in order to create the CEMF that so interests us.

The armature (effectively the SM collector coil) we do not want to move - which maybe explains the vibrations as no doubt if wired accordingly it will be attempting to do so.

But no, we want what effectively is our armature to stay put. We do not want the mechanical energy that the device could possibly provide us with, we want electrical energy. Unlike Tesla, we are not looking to convert electrical energy into mechanical energy, we merely  :) want more out than we put in.

While there is CEMF in the control coils (stator) there will always be an innefficiency unless we can make put to use this CEMF pulse elsewhere. But surely our collector too will also suffer from this problem, so inhibiting the energy output... unless perhaps we wound it in a bifilar configuration whereby there is no CEMF in the collector, so no inductive reactance, just very low resistance.

These are the lines along which I intend to undertake my first experiments.

I now just have to decide on the best way to configure control and collector coils in order to simulate a solid state Tesla polyphase induction motor.

Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"