Electrolysis in steam vs liquid

[Neptune01]

I do have a question for those propeller heads out there.

Water has 3 main stages â€"solid (ice), liquid and gas (steam)
Now, I have been trying read as much info on HHO production and most of these if not all focus on the extraction of HHO from water â€" Liquid form.

I vaguely remember this from school days so please be patient!
That if heat is applied to water - the molecules become much more active.

Does this mean the bond keeping the H2O together is a bit weaker in steam?
Is it not easier to split HHO in steam rather than water with Electrolysis at low temps/watts/v/a?


I know there are reports of this being done at high temperatures like the link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_electrolysis
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/pdfs/32405b26.pdf
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/08/doe_funds_sri_i.html

But for us trying to achieve just 5 liters of HHO per minute and a steam temperature of 120C is this not something worthwhile to investigate?

I mean all vehicles engines generate heat which could be used to heat/boil the water to form steam.

If anybody has tried this I would appreciate your feedback?

[sm0ky2]

the main problem i see with this is seperating the water vapor from the gas, so you can use it.

with water electrolysis, most of the water remains in the reseviore, there is "some" vapor, but you can still achieve greater than 98% Hydrogen and Oxygen samples from pure water.

with steam, you will have a much greater water content in your gasses or mixture of gasses.

[fritznien]

it will be 100% water. steam is non conductive so no Electrolysis.
Electrolysis is the neutralization of ions already in the water, its natural state. thus the Faraday limit one electron one
hydrogen atom.
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[HeairBear]

it will be 100% water. steam is non conductive so no Electrolysis.
Electrolysis is the neutralization of ions already in the water, its natural state. thus the Faraday limit one electron one
hydrogen atom.
fritznien

One electron, one hydrogen atom? What happens to the other hydrogen atom? It stays stuck to the oxygen atom? So shouldn't it be one electron, two hydrogen atoms? Do you have a reference? I find that most interesting and would like to know more. Thanks fritznien!

Wasn't Faraday's work before the Bohr atomic model?

[fritznien]

One electron, one hydrogen atom? What happens to the other hydrogen atom? It stays stuck to the oxygen atom? So shouldn't it be one electron, two hydrogen atoms? Do you have a reference? I find that most interesting and would like to know more. Thanks fritznien!

Wasn't Faraday's work before the Bohr atomic model?

your not breaking water with 2 volts, water is a very good insulator in pure form(ions removed) the plus electrode attracts negative ions
oxygen and the negative electrode attracts the positive ions hydrogen. so one electron to neutralize each hydrogen and 2 taken from each oxygen, the currant flow in the liquid is ions.
even a small currant has billions of electrons.
the point of Faraday's law is that gas production is proportional to currant.
wiki has a detailed explanation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis
where my father worked he often used steam to put out fires on equipment that used 550 volts. this was a smoke generator
in a meat packing plant. if water hit the 550 it went bang.
fritznien