Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[Hoppy]

TK wrote: -

"And how can Aaron be making "dozens" of these different oscillatory waveforms when nobody else is able to make any of them? I am genuinely puzzled by this. He accuses me of incompetence, but I am using the identical component values, as near as I can tell, that he is using  (and yes I have tried a miniscule shunt, it makes no difference to me)."

I have seen the banding effect Aaron shows but I have difficulty resoving the high frequency waveform because of my scope focus problem. See my post 1246.

Hoppy

[TinselKoala]

Yes

.99

I haven't looked at Aaron's scope's specs, but it is possible that the scope might be able to do all that on board. The LeCroy can, and I've shown just such a power and energy calculation using it (albeit on stored waveforms, since it has an input channel inop). Which clearly shows the same sort of thing that .99 showed from the sim.
But of course all my early work is more or less irrelevant, since I was examining Ainlsie's claim and her circuit, not Aaron's.
So, using an underdriven 555, to make those little spiky things on top of the signal when the mosfet is supposed to be OFF, is the key?

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948GxRN1Qxo&feature=related

Or some other oscillation that I can't make, due to my incompetence?


(There are several other vids in that time frame where I also show these oscillations. Which were rejected by the Ainslie crewe at the time, because they happened when the mosfet is OFF. Now look what they are claiming.)

[TinselKoala]

So Aaron is charging an already charged battery, in order to "prove" his claim of battery charging? That's pretty typical. But how is that not "misinformation"? Shouldn't one use a battery at some known discharged state, if one is testing a battery charger?
Or do Free Energy Ainslie Chargers (tm) only "work" on fully charged batteries? I wouldn't be surprised at that.

[TinselKoala]

Here's a suggestion: Use the commercial battery charger as the main "battery" in the Ainslie circuit. Discharge a battery by running it into a reverse-biased 9 volt 5 Amp Zener diode and a resistor in series. Time how long it takes before the Zener cuts the current. Then charge that external battery from the recirc diode in the "normal" way, to whatever "full charge" criterion you like. Time how long it takes. Then discharge that battery with the Zener and resistor again, timing how long it takes until the Zener cuts off. Then hook that battery directly up to the charger and wait for its idiot light to light up. Time how long it takes. Do another discharge with the Zener, recording times.

Draw your own conclusions based on the times.

(A properly heat-sunk 1n2973A would probably be OK to use, with the right resistance. By a strange coincidence I have 4 on hand. Now if I could only get some chart recorder action happening...)

[Hoppy]

Here's a suggestion: Use the commercial battery charger as the main "battery" in the Ainslie circuit. Discharge a battery by running it into a reverse-biased 9 volt 5 Amp Zener diode and a resistor in series. Time how long it takes before the Zener cuts the current. Then charge that external battery from the recirc diode in the "normal" way, to whatever "full charge" criterion you like. Time how long it takes. Then discharge that battery with the Zener and resistor again, timing how long it takes until the Zener cuts off. Then hook that battery directly up to the charger and wait for its idiot light to light up. Time how long it takes. Do another discharge with the Zener, recording times.

Draw your own conclusions based on the times.

Two considerations here. Firstly it takes more energy to put back the same level of capacity into a battery than was take from it. Secondly, the final cut off voltage is not a good indicator of state of charge. This means that over a number of charge / discharge cycles down to a fixed voltage point or low termination point (LTP), even if it were possible to replace the previous capacity exactly, the capacity removed down to the LTP will vary over a number of load test cycles.

Many Bedini followers claim that they have OU from their batteries using battery load testing down to a fixed LTP. The reality is that the whole method and procedure is badly flawed and not a reliable way of showing overunity in a system.

Hoppy