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Overunity Machines Forum



Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

Started by TinselKoala, June 16, 2009, 09:52:52 PM

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Quote from: qiman on July 24, 2009, 04:22:26 AM
Thanks OC, I will continue and you seem to have elected yourself to the steering committee for this thread.

Any "steering" I do will be an attempt to steer away from this thread and onto some other, more promising topic. I think this thread has run its course. Nothing here has shown any hint of overunity and can be thoroughly explained using conventional textbook physics. This thread was interesting for a while. But nothing has been shown which requires current theories to be rewritten. It's time to move on.

There are a number of other topics in this forum that have never been adequately explained, including a couple I presented. I have no idea what TK might choose next, if anything (Of course, I hope he'll spend some more time investigating my stuff). He deserves a vacation for a few days at least (not too long now).

But I don't think the Ainslie topic should be abruptly abandoned. A lot of good work was done here. It should be recorded and made available for use by future Ainslie researchers and others who dabble in electronics experimentation. I'm willing to contribute a little effort (not a lot) to see that happen.

So carry on with your efforts. And if you manage to discover something truly anomalous, and have the evidence to support it, come on back and compete with the rest of us for the attentions of the real experts.

OC

TinselKoala

If Aaron wants his scope shots to be takes seriously he MUST include the horizontal and vertical settings at bare minimum. AND if he wishes to tell the TRUE story of those spikes he needs to look at them at a much higher time magnification.

Display the ringdown of a single pulse. The spike has negative components and positive ones. Overall, the energy flow in the spike almost totally cancels itself out. That is, it integrates to nearly zero.

His trace is helpful but his comment about RMS readings is incoherent.

There is not a consumer-grade TRMS meter made that can properly read this circuit at these waveforms and frequencies, and for Aaron even to suggest it is very telling. My analog Simpson will actually do better than most digital meters at this task when properly applied.

I can actually use the scope --and he can too -- to calculate the ENERGY being transferred through the shunt resistor--or anywhere else in the circuit--during a period of time, and as soon as I know that I have the correct waveform I will do so.

What Aaron is showing above looks nothing at all like the oscillatory waveforms he has been showing. It looks like a normal input current trace like many I have shown, made when the circuit is normally amplifying a square wave pulse.

And everybody, I thought, even Rosemary herself, agrees that battery drawdown tests like Aaron has proposed have too many variables and are too difficult to control to be preformed adequately by, shall we say, amateurs.

One proper way to do the energy comparisons is as I have done it: Compute or measure the average power in from the battery when the Ainslie circuit is running, and take a temperature vs. time profile of the load as it heats to equilibrium. Then take the same load and supply it with DC from a regulated supply at the SAME AVERAGE POWER that you found in the first case, and run that temperature vs. time profile to equilibrium again. Compare the profiles, and then explain how, if the Ainslie circuit is using the SAME POWER more effectively, its load does not heat as fast as the DC case.

Besides, it takes days of testing to significantly deplete my 2x12V 20 mA-H battery. I've run the Ainslie load well past 110 degrees C many times in the last few days and the battery is still indicating 25.2 volts cold. Battery depletion testing will only be worthwhile IF there is the slightest indication of excess energy. So far there isn't, for me.

Funny, isn't it? Aaron has found excess energy and self-running motors and self-recharging batteries several times, to hear him tell it. In fact everything he makes, works.
And yet...he's still posting stuff on a free energy website and building 555 circuits from a Radio Shack book.

Something is wrong with this picture.

The input power MEASUREMENT if properly made must logically be the Algebraic Sum of any power flows into and out of the battery, automatically. That's what those spikes represent (whether they actually get to the battery as charge is another issue--they don't really, as MH and Henieck have shown). And that's what the magic of integration will tell us---the SUM of the battery energy flow in and out.

powercat

When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

TinselKoala

Quote from: powercat on July 24, 2009, 11:52:44 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1fE4ez1EPc
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ROTFLMAO!!

Yet another demonstration from Aaron that he does not know how to use an oscilloscope to display information.

That thing is more than just a light show, Aaron. It is a precision measurement tool, and it's a shame to see it being operated by someone who either does not know how to use it, or who is deliberately using it to obfuscate the truth.

You are using a micrometer as a C-clamp. Trying to measure a grain of sand with a postal scale and a yardstick.

And when you get garbage, that's what you believe and that's what you report--since it came from an "instrument".

But instruments must be used correctly, and you aren't doing that.

What kind of scope does not even have an automatic trigger? You said yours does not, I believe.

I have actually NEVER seen a modern scope that did not have an auto trigger. No wonder you are having so much trouble displaying a stable waveform.

By a curious coincidence, I too made a video this morning.

It's uploading now. You may find it instructive.

But more likely, Aaron, you just won't understand it.
Since I explain clearly what I'm showing and how it was obtained...which you seem to be incapable of doing.

TinselKoala

Can Anyone tell me the make and model of Aaron's oscilloscope?

If it's not a well-known make, could I please be permitted to see a clear photograph of the front panel?

Thanks in advance.