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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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wattsup

@all

Maybe this variable capacitor will do the job. lolololol Nice pocket size.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/JENNINGS-VARIABLE-VACCUM-CAPACITOR-2000pF-15KV-/130627744852?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6a053454

@ronotte

Looking back again at your image of the multiple waveforms (mix-2 annotated.gif) I have added the pulse frequency in each of the waveforms. (Hope they are right if not I can re-do it and re-post here).

We can see that the HV frequency is 15kHz all the way into the CC so there is no increase in frequency happening between the spark gap and the CC. I noticed you did not point to the variable capacitor, so can you say if there was a VC in your set-up when these waveforms were taken.

wattsup

John M

Quote from: wattsup on January 25, 2012, 12:07:54 PM
@ronotte

Thanks for your post. There is something I have to mention myself about frequencies.

So far with the HV applied to the CC there is nothing really special happening on the output coil. Adjusting the vertical position of the CC relative to the output coil or adjusting the inner ferrite rod relative to both the CC and the output coil, I cannot see any subtle changes at the spark gap frequency ranges (SGFR). That is to say the actual SGFR is a very narrow range going from 1Hz (with high enough amplitude) to about 20Hz after which there is a small range around 35kHz and then higher up I have not been able to generate a spark at SG1.

Applying a higher pulse frequency on the flyback primary is not possible because the flyback itself just cannot respond fast enough. I was hoping to pulse in the MHz range but this is doing absolutely nothing to the flyback.

The most puzzling thing abut all this is the following.

When is connect one of my frequency generators with a measly 16vdc at very few milli-amps directly to the CC and scope off of the output coil, now I can see exactly the effects of moving the CC and ferrite relative to the output coil. I can see the nuances in the waveform changing which is impossible to see when working under the SGFR. The real C effects are happening above 1MHz and closer around 6MHz. I should make a video of this to show you what I mean.

So this is telling me that in the TK patent where he is talking about frequency filtering or some other effect, the way I see it is that it is great to have a good working SGFR but it is useless to the CC since it is not then transformed to a higher frequency before it hits the CC. The CC is basically five times 1 metre long wires all in parallel so the actual resonant frequency of the CC will be extremely high range that is not possible with just working in the SGFR.

When I was looking to have direct control of the pulsing frequency applied to the flyback, it was to impart the same high frequency and HV to the CC. But this is not possible with the flyback as it just cannot respond to such high frequency pulses. So TK must have had the same problem.

This is where my one missing component to the WNYg devices comes in. The variable capacitor that goes across the CC. This is have not yet used since I have not found one yet to do the job. But my question is will the variable capacitor being across the CC increase the frequency of the HV. I wonder if @stivep has anything to say about the variable capacitor (VC).

In building the CC with moveable inner/outer coils and ferrite, I though this would do away with the need for the VC. But I am now inclined to think the VC is not only used to do some type of coil matching but also to increase the applied HV frequency. If the VC cannot increase the HV frequency, then what I believe is required is a direct testing method of the CC with a HV and variable HF signal but a signal that is much stronger then what I can generate with only my FG. BUT HOW. Both the HV and the HF are kind of at opposite parts of the universe of physical capabilities. How can you produce a good HV at HF? I think TK figured that out in one way or another to make his coil sing out, OUUUUUUUU, Ouuuuuuuuuuu, O O UUUUUUU.

@stivep

At least you won't need any lubrication. lololololololol (Could not resist.)

Can you say anything about the variable capacitor. Are you using one in your set-up as I could not clearly see it in your last video?

@Hope

Thanks for the post but those components are not the ones I need. I have found HV diodes and caps on eBay from a company in China so I am considering ordering from them enough to do the work and have a few spares (lol). The only one I am still stuck on is the VC.

wattsup

Wattsup- Excellent question! I was thinking the CC has magnetic cancellation and is not resonant to the fundamental frequency. Also that it might be used only for electrostatic coupling. The secondary would be resonant to the harmonic frequency (3mhz) but don't know for sure.
Stevip - Please let us know and also which schematic your success resulted from.
John

wattsup

@ronotte

About your last waveform, I just was driving my system and put my round scope sensor coil over the spark gaps and could see a waveform rising for first 4-5 points then drop for the next 15 points on the waveform. I was driving without the diodes but the flyback was too great for my power supply and now it is toast. I'll try to fix it, if something is overly evident otherwise I need another one. Or, maybe I should just make a small battery bank and see what happens. The flyback was sending the PS readings or amp and voltage through the roof so I guess it took one too many.

What's incredible is the mosfet and flyback seem to have survived, thus far, so it is not a total loss. lol

wattsup


forest

http://www.overunity.com/2300/bruces-tpu-theory-and-experiments-ver-1-2/msg310741/#msg310741
What if caduceus coil is here to create big magnetic field impulse, like intermodulation of 3 frequencies in tpu ?
Anyway, evry power generated has origin in magnetic impulse or great strenght or speed.

Khwartz

Quote from: energia9 on January 24, 2012, 08:11:21 AM
BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ON OUTPUT VERSUS INPUT AND FEAR BUYING EXPENSIVE THINGS JUST FOR A MEASUREMENT ERROR:

What if you use an electrical motor as a source of energy and turn it by hand feeding the apparatus and see how much energy is taken out at the same speed you turn it without the coil device and with the coil device.... this is the most easiest to see what is true and whats not....
probably stepping up the voltage to 30 volts if needed.
Wesley can you perform this simple experiment
This will Surely tell Everything  since a motor can not be tricked like meters and stuff...  you will know the exact power going in because you measure the amount of energy that comes out of it, if its too much you slow down, if not enough speed up,there needs to be some adjustment in fluctuations,   

but for sure, from a 50 watt motor  you will not get out 200 watts,   FOR SURE!
Yes, we can, but only for breath period of time because the mechanic is not design to support the speed for example, but we can speed ten times a DC motor just with concentrating the magnetic flux of the stator in it (avoiding to get out), and this with the half of the voltage. Of course, speed is not torque, but with ten times speed, well surely we get a very increased power ;)

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For measurement: you talk about a true problem! I've already proposed to Wesley a very simple way. it's to make an etalon of brightness in the same conditions of environment lightning and sensibility of cam, feeding the bulbs without the device with the same voltage (I've forgotten to tell him too for the frequency :/ ) that he feeds the bulbs with, to provide the comparison.

An other way I've forgotten to propose him, is to just use a Luxmeter! lol but one has to know that the brighting value is not really linear compare to the voltage and that the resistance at 3,000°C/3,500°C is 15 times more than at 20°C! and that because the filament has not the time to cool itself like with low frequencies, that the eyes has a tendency to make an average of the brightness, it is very difficult to evaluate accurately the real lightning power of the bulbs.

An other point who worried me much:

The formula of power for alternative current is not: P=U*I but more like P=U*I*f, with f as the frequency. Of course because it's the integral of the curve that correspond mathematically to the energy, and divided by time (or multiplied by frequency, same thing) equals to the power.

So, we have to very very care about the interpretation of the values on the power supplies, because if only Amp + Volts, it's not sufficient to give the input power, cause it is not U*I!

I mean if we give 20V*1A*50Hz we have P1 but with 20V*1A*100Hz we have P2=2*P1!! So, of course, if you put a bulb with double frequency it will glow much brighter! but will never mean that device between gives the 100% more, but the power-supply does yes!

So that why we really have to be careful about what we measure, and the base of measurement is comparison, and the good question about comparison is: to what to what, we compare! (or "Watt to Watt" if you want  ;) )

That's why I've many times proposed this process to put series of bulbs directly out of the power supply after the experiment with the device, with the remaining values of voltage and frequency used for the experiment with the same series, and then, if it glows less than with the device that will prove by comparison with no doubt, the overunitiy; as simple as that! ;)

Aren't you agree with that?