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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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jbignes5

Quote from: woopy on January 27, 2012, 05:08:31 PM
Hi Ronotte

wow !!

very well done  bravo! that is the AIDA trumpet

So i insert my understanding of your circuit please feel free to modify it and bring your comment

so far i got almost your first picture trumpet wave , but trying to improve it i fired almost all my HV cap and also my LCR meter  youp! and furthermore and got some really good bloody electric chocs. So everybody be very cautious with those circuit and especially with HV capacitors.

hehe this quest is very interesting (and more and more )

thank's for sharing

good luck at all

Laurent


This is somewhat familiar to my work on the mystery of the pierce arrow Tesla Box.. Maybe this can be used...


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/OriginalTeslaboxdesign2.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/OriginalTeslaboxdesign1revision2a.jpg



This should be integrated into one unit. The center portion of the Tesla pancake coils have the spark gaps in them. The second picture is the spark gap circuitry. I have not shown these before except once because there are errors in them but essentially the spark gaps emit a pulse wave that gets squished in between the magnets. The antenna's are the main drive and receivers. They must be balanced. The drive antenna is the emitter and weighs twice the mass of the smaller rods. The only difference between the smaller and larger antennas is the surface area of them. The diodes are most likely the wrong directions but you should get the drift. The bottom of the first picture is a relay but could be high voltage switching devices.


Maybe it is gibberish but maybe not. You guys might make something of it. The design Woopy showed made me think of the design I did more then a year ago...

duff

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 27, 2012, 10:04:27 PM

This is somewhat familiar to my work on the mystery of the pierce arrow Tesla Box.. Maybe this can be used...


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/OriginalTeslaboxdesign2.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/OriginalTeslaboxdesign1revision2a.jpg


What is the source of the drawings???

I far as I'm aware, no one knew what was in Tesla's Box.

ronotte

I’ll try now to answer all as I feel  that this thread has many really interested followers myself included. Let me take also the opportunity to thank again stivep for his fundamental contribute: please do continue on your way!

@Kator01
You can easily find all the relevant info on Delamorto Kacher device just in this thread. It is everything here: you can just google with keywords ‘delamorto’  ‘ronotte’ or ‘kacher’. If you are not satisfied just sent me a message and I’ll provide you my  Kacher schematic. On the other end have a look to: Woopy's  today post:  Reply #10314 on: January 27, 2012, 11:08:31 PM. It is everything there!

@Khwartz,
The left picture in Reply #10305 on: January 27, 2012, 03:31:59 PM is relative to my previous best trumpet’s shape & amplitude. You can see that the slopes, even if increasing, lacks of concavity. In other words there is not the quadratic increase typical of any exponential behavior. It is to be said that said pic taken while HV sinusoidal signal input at AV plug =1.2KVpp (point#11 in stivep’s rev2 schem) is evidently too low to trigger the exponential wave increase.
In fact, on the 2nd pic (on the right) you can see that increasing to about 2KV the input signal promotes a new operating mode that is exactly what observed by STAAAR team even if  I should say, obtained with a complete different approach , namely pancake coils instead of caduceus & pickup coil and 2KV impressed.

@John M,
Hi John, I am also striving to understand what really is happening. Certainly you can find something useful by reading the keystone paper written by Vladimir Utkin (free available on internet and published also somewhere in this thread) at least for the reason why we chosen to use such pickup coil arrangement: the second (open & inverse wounded) coil does ‘blind’ the first coil…hence you can extract power from it without load reflection on primary.

@Woopy,
Hi Laurent! I’m am very happy you have captured almost everything from my perhaps confusing posts. I think you are very near to my state of art and I encourage you to go on and keep me informed as we could join quickly our forces.
I’m also happy to signal you some points to correct and request as well something about your scope pics. Lets go with order:

1 â€" Referring to your pic labeled ‘trumpet-wave-circuit-saputa.jpg, please take note that: a) there is no need of protective diode on NPN transistor (I suggest to use MJE1530D), the resistor for base polarizing I use is 3.3KOhm. b) The primary coil on kacher is 5t 1.5mm pancake. c) Pancake 8t bifilar lacks of the tuning cap: it is very important! Its value must be tuned using one of the low power ways I’ve indicated (in my case I use 1n/15KV). d) The two output pancakes are (in my case) made auto resonant to 3MHz so it turned out the necessity to use at least 80turns. That anyway is to be considered (after operating the system) not so important. You could use the Tesla rules and use 32-40t. e) The output pancake connections seems wrong. I connected the CT to GND, I left free (open) the left pancake, I connected the right pancake to HV diode; the leveling cap is also connected between GND and diode’s cathode.

2 â€" Referring to trumpet-wave-1.jpg I’d like you details where the pics are referring and to have a more detailed trumpet. Anyway speaking about your lower waveform I see that the spike envelope does follow a ‘cup’ like form while the real inside bursts are not clear enough. Remember that the trumpet I reported are the single inside bursts….so far very different apparently from what you are seeing (I have also a cup like waveform from the spikes only). Please take also note that it takes time to reach my results…that come after many , many ADJ of several parameters like: Ferrite’s rod position, tuning caps, kacher inside rod/ferrite positioning and so on…

Good work!

@hartiberlin,

Hi harti!
Please consider it still early to make any OU measurement (at the moment DC input power is 7-15W depending on conditions). Anyway the last wave I succeeded to obtain is to be considered very encouraging as it does show a really possible energy gain. I’m striving to find a way to ‘extend’ that clearly exponential rise as it could go to infinite and hence circuit’s out of control. At the moment what is happening is that if I increase the input DC supply to 30V the wave does not increase…but rather decrease…it means that there is much to work. On the other hand this is real fun for me.
Please correct the WESLEY_schematic-1 as it lacks the tuning cap across the Caduceus, GND connection at Center tap should be showed but it is optional.

@jbignes5
"...his is somewhat familiar to my work on the mystery of the pierce arrow Tesla Box.. Maybe this can be used...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/OriginalTeslaboxdesign2.jpg[/font]
]http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p171/jbignes5/OriginalTeslaboxdesign1revision2a.jpg[/font]

"...This should be integrated into one unit. The center portion of the Tesla pancake coils have the spark gaps in them. The second picture is the spark gap circuitry. I have not shown these before except once because there are errors in them but essentially the spark gaps emit a pulse wave that gets squished in between the magnets. The antenna's are the main drive and receivers. They must be balanced. The drive antenna is the emitter and weighs twice the mass of the smaller rods. The only difference between the smaller and larger antennas is the surface area of them. The diodes are most likely the wrong directions but you should get the drift. The bottom of the first picture is a relay but could be high voltage switching devices...."

Wow, that’s very interesting: Thank you very much Sir! May be I can use such idea in my actual device. I concord with you that there are errors…let me study it better.

Roberto

Qwert


Khwartz

Quote from: ronotte on January 28, 2012, 04:54:22 AM

@Khwartz,
The left picture in Reply #10305 on: January 27, 2012, 03:31:59 PM is relative to my previous best trumpet’s shape & amplitude. You can see that the slopes, even if increasing, lacks of concavity. In other words there is not the quadratic increase typical of any exponential behavior. It is to be said that said pic taken while HV sinusoidal signal input at AV plug =1.2KVpp (point#11 in stivep’s rev2 schem) is evidently too low to trigger the exponential wave increase.
In fact, on the 2nd pic (on the right) you can see that increasing to about 2KV the input signal promotes a new operating mode that is exactly what observed by STAAAR team even if  I should say, obtained with a complete different approach , namely pancake coils instead of caduceus & pickup coil and 2KV impressed.
.../...
Roberto
Hi Ronotte ! and thanks for reply.
Ok, this what I wanted to be sure about the right side pic is about your last set.
So, look: isn't that power goes with the integral of the curve? In both case, and that was very brilliant to do so I think, you let the same scale of voltage so that we can see that the surface of the first one is much more important than the second one.
So, because of this, I'm not sure that is interesting to have a trumpet-form instead of a convex-glass-form. I'm in communication regularly with an experimentator in free energy, Kdkinen (a very sympathetic man! :) ), who works on Don Smith Device and all his work was about to obtain the convex-form, that i well unsdertand!
For me, the the best would be the most "scare" that possible (see draws).
Of course, now, if you get half power by cycle/periode (half surface of the curve for same frequency) but that you use a third or a quarter of power in in-put, that is an other story!
So, looks to me that is essential to compare both out-pout, I mean in the 2 sets, and of course the ratios out-put / in-put, I mean the COP of course ;)
What do you think?