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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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jbignes5

Quote from: cHenriques on April 10, 2012, 07:05:25 PM
hi,
I have a question, I have done tests with this two circuits and I don´t understand why there are this diference

If I use this mounting (conventional) the bulb shines fully
But if I use Avramenko's plug despite the spark gap to be more frequente the bulb only shines a bit

the imput remain the some on either cases, the Avramenko's plug and the convencional

on Avramenko's plul I can have a lot more voltage on capacitor (like Vladimir says) but I'dont understend why I don't have as much power as on the conventional mode

I do this video to demontrate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4RzcJ2Cpro&feature=youtu.be

thanks

Try more winds in the spark gap part of the circuit. You need more voltage to down convert on the secondary part. The cap negates current so to speak. You are getting bursts from the cap but you don't have enough coil to convert into current on the secondary.

cHenriques

thanks jbignes5
maybe you're right, I have 300 windings
but if the spark gap fires when the cap have a certain voltage, so a certain charge, the corrente in the both cases should be the same, right?

anyone have observed the same effect?

As on Avemenkro's plug the plates can have diferent voltage relatively to the earth (so one can have more charge that other), could it be the problem?

regards

jbignes5

Quote from: cHenriques on April 10, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
thanks jbignes5
maybe you're right, I have 300 windings
but if the spark gap fires when the cap have a certain voltage, so a certain charge, the corrente in the both cases should be the same, right?

anyone have observed the same effect?

As on Avemenkro's plug the plates can have diferent voltage relatively to the earth (so one can have more charge that other), could it be the problem?

regards


Ok from what I know about this process so far is that the averamenko plug is a bidirectional pump. When you are dealing with higher voltages, which you should be, it has the ability to attract more voltage to the source of the discharge. When you also add in the coil you are then making a channel for extra more voltage to accumulate. The secondary is a converter from high voltage to a much lower voltage and higher current.

forest

cHenriques

This all thread is becoming boring so I decided to help you and heat the atmosphere  ;D
Avramenko plug is not a magic , yes it is working like a pump but it's also just 1/2 of diode bridge  ;)
In picture you will find required modifications, though you can use direct HV connection if you know what Kapanadze said "how to do not let impulse to die or in other words how to always swing above certain level of voltage which disallow capacitor charge leak to HV ground"
PLEASE DO NOT PATENT - this I give freely for non commercial usage and if you carefully analyse it is nothing more but just completed ( almost I think  ;) ) and fixed Don Smith plasma globe device http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Ch3/Fig39.jpg
As you see on picture Don device was intentionally spoiled to eliminate possible replications.(hmm maybe he used caduceus coil on plasma globe but still in such connection it would be closed circuit not open one and closed circuits are very hard to convert into OU)
The one thing which makes me angry is that process was known in XVIII century when Lejden jar was invented, though there was no Tesla coil and incandescent bulbs that time.
In case of somebody acting unfair here I'm claiming priority for such assembly. I know that circuits with ionizer  was published before but I do not limit myself to such embodiment - it can be done capacitively , inductively or also by direct HV connection as far as the positve potential is steady and disallow charge leakage.Th part ommitted from schematic is controlled ground connection but for small loads it should work without it, yet it is essential part. Antenna is here like in Tesla radiant patent - elevated capacitance preferably of the shape disallowing charge leakage, the simplest is just insulated metal plate though better is insulated metal sphere or ball (or Tesla shape)
The true essence of Tesla radiant patent is just that - electrostatic induction.

gyulasun

Hi forest,

thanks for this and I ask the output Tesla coil is a quarter wave long at the 10kHz (suggested) input frequency to have voltage maximum on its top end or it is not needed?  Also, the 3nF capacitor you indicate is your suggestion, it can be any similar value with appropiate HV rating?

Thanks,  Gyula