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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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verpies

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on April 17, 2013, 07:00:38 AM
Sure it is a mere coincidence that Kapanadze's overunity motor works with a brass and a steel disc connected together and that such a construction with two dissimilar metals is also used to get the Seebeck effect.
Seebeck Effect requires a close contact between two dissimilar metals and a large temperature difference between them.
Kapanadze Motor does not satisfy either of these conditions. Those 3 videos clearly show people touching those disks with naked hands, without getting burned.
Also, the Seebeck effect is a very weak effect (proportional to the surface area of the metal junction) and is incapable of producing 1kW of power with those metal junction contact areas and concealable temperature gradients.
Finally, the 1st video shows two brass disks (no dissimilar metals)

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on April 17, 2013, 07:00:38 AM
And it is also a mere coincidence that there is a lot of insulation foam visible on and around the brass and steel discs, so as if differences in temperatures of these parts are an issue.
The foam is very odd and in the 3rd German video it is everywhere inside except the inside surfaces of the disks and on the shaft .
However, in the 1st and 2nd video of the mechanical Kapanadze Motor the foam insulation is absent. However, an annoying acoustical noise is noticeable, then.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on April 17, 2013, 07:00:38 AM
The narrator says the foam is there to reduce the noise. But what noise? The noise of two smooth rotating discs needs that extensive damping? Really?
Yes, the disks should rotate smoothly if they are well balanced and they seem to be.  Also the pillow block bearings could make a noise. However, the noise in the first video does not resemble a bearing noise. It is a vibrating noise with high frequency components that is independent of the angular velocity of the shaft.  This is important because the frequency of any mechanical noise should be proportional to the angular speed (RPMs).  Alos note that those harsh vibrations are present only when the disks are spinning up, yet they are absent when the disks are spinning down.
I strongly suspect what those vibrations are but you'd not like my explanation. Anyway it is not Seebeck effect noise.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on April 17, 2013, 07:00:38 AM
Essentially these two disc are a capacitor, both plates connected via a coil between, resulting in an oscillating circuit and at the same time it is a Seebeck/Peltier element.
I hate to rain on your parade, but the only Seebeck junctions in such configuration would be the tiny points of contact where the coil wound on the shaft touches the disks (the area of wire crossection).  Also, as soon as two plates of a capacitor are connected with a conductor (the coil on the shaft), the capacitor stops being a capacitor.  Finally, the 50cm distance between the disk surfaces would make the eventual capacitance between those disks miniscule especially when the dielectric is predominantly air.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on April 17, 2013, 07:00:38 AM
So no wonder something strange could happen when this configuration is excited by means of a high frequency magnetic field (via the toroidal coil).
If there are no belts in the pillow blocks, then the HF stimulation of the disks should be significant to the method of device operation.

verpies

Quote from: Grumage on April 17, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
Having read your  earlier message, am I right in saying that the higher the frequency the harder it is to penetrate the skin?
Yes. 
Please save my equation for the depth of the RF penetration.

Quote from: Grumage on April 17, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
Also you missed my question whether the DC input current would be a reasonable marker for output power?
I missed it on purpose.
It is a difficult question with many unknowns because the Royer oscillator will periodically try to feed the energy back into the power supply and have internal losses.
However if you ensure with big capacitors and your scope that the input power supply conducts only constant current and constant voltage then my answer would be "constant current with an associated constant voltage it would be a good indicator of consumed power but not of radiated power".

Quote from: Grumage on April 17, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
Moving on please see attached. It is a 1/4 BSP air muffler made of sintered Phosphor Bronze. Now we have 3 elements....... Copper, Tin and Phosphorus.
I wonder what the frequency would be for that little mix? But I thought as they are really small particles of material pressed together maybe we could see a result?

That air muffler looks interesting.  Can you detect its resistance with an ohm meter  ...or is it melted together so well that it conducts as well as copper at that scale?

In any case each of the 3 elements will resonate at 3 different frequencies in the same magnetic field. 
Is that good?  Is more frequencies better than one and easier to hit? ...I don't know.

Quote from: Grumage on April 17, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
On a lighter note for you and all..........  If the answer is 400 mA........ What is the question?
I forgot what the 400mA was about. Anyway, current without voltage does not tell us anything about power and if it is not DC then you cannot multiply amps and volts to get power.

Quote from: Grumage on April 17, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
Why isn't this Bloody thing working?
What isn't working?  The oscillator, radiated power in the coil, or sth else?


Quote from: Grumage on April 17, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
BTW. My Royer oscillator does not have a center tapped coil. Just single coil.
I was visualizing a circuit like on the attached schematic

gauschor

So where is the Schlaraffenland device? After over 1001 pages of arabian nights storytelling, I expect some serious shit and replications, otherwise I must assume the Kapanadze device is utter bullshit.

Grumage

Quote from: verpies on April 17, 2013, 01:45:35 PM
Yes. 
Please save my equation for the depth of the RF penetration.

That air muffler looks interesting.  Can you detect its resistance with an ohm meter  ...or is it melted together so well that it conducts as well as copper at that scale?

I will reply to the rest of your message later, because I am in a middle of another reply and I need to go out soon.

Dear Verpies.

Thankyou for your reply. I am getting a little excited myself because it's DC resistance measured with an LRC meter shows 1.268 Ohm's, not a short circuit as I would have expected!!

However we are still going to need to know at what frequency to hit it with. And secondly how to hit it with a magnetising force.

Cheers Grum.

verpies

Quote from: Hoppy on April 17, 2013, 05:14:27 AM
On the subject of trying unconventional 'out of the box' ideas, take a look at post 5975 where guest quartktoo insists that uninsulated copper tube is used inside TK's and others coils and that this tube is not slotted as convention would dictate.
That does not surprise me because tubes and disks (as in the mechanical Kapanadze Motors) are generally the same geometrical solids. The only differences between them are their proportions.
A similar HF stimulation that worked on those disks should also work on the tubes.

The lack of a slot makes sense only if the tube/disk constitutes the primary winding of a transformer, where current is developed inside the tube/disk by the action of the RF stimulation.  If the tube/disk was playing the role of a secondary winding then indeed it would represent a dead short.