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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Quote from: NickZ on April 16, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
How has he proven this?
With a Geiger counter AFTER RF has ceased.

Quote from: NickZ on April 16, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
He has not shown an output, from his device. Even a tiny one.
Yes he has. Beta or gamma radiation IS an energy output.  Heat is too.
Electric current at some voltage also constitutes an energy output, but it is not the only form of energy in existence.

Quote from: NickZ on April 16, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
How has he proven this? He has not shown an output, from his device. Even a tiny one.
Yes he has, it just was not an output in the form of electric current.
In your question you seem to assume that the only energy output out of a device is electric current.

Quote from: NickZ on April 16, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
Even a CFL gives off radiation, so do cell phones, Tv, microwaves ovens, etz.. so what?
So what!?  The frequency of gamma is millions times higher than the radiation from those devices that you've mentioned.
Higher frequency represents higher energy photons and is very different.  Beta particles are much more energetic than any emanations from the devices you mentioned above, too.  And alphas top them all.

Quote from: NickZ on April 16, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
This does not lead to an electrical output, per se.
Yes, it does eventually. It's just a matter of conversion into electrical output.  e.g. see here.  Wesley has not gone that step yet but the energy has manifested itself.

Quote from: NickZ on April 16, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
I will be patient, as always, but mark my words, there will be no electrical output from beta decay.
There already was electric energy from beta decay 50 years ago and there still is.  There is a whole branch of science called Betavoltaics that deals with this.
Do you realize that beta particles are charged electrons moving close to the speed of light?  Charges in unidirectional motion = electric current!

Quote from: NickZ on April 16, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
Do you really think that the best of the worlds scientist and the best labs know about this, but aren't doing anything about it.  They could be make billions, but no, they aren't.
I don't do socio-political discussions.  Science/Physics only.

Quote from: NickZ on April 16, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
We can attribute this so called beta decay to whats producing an output. But, that may not really be the cause of this output, but a consequence of it, instead.
All that matters is that charged particles can be made to appear radiating out of matter when stimulated appropriately with RF or magnetic field + RF.

NickZ

  quote:
   "All that matters is that speeding electrons can be made to appear radiating out of matter when stimulated appropriately".

  That may be all that matters to you, but, what matters to some,  or even most of us is IF this will actually lead to an electrical output. Not just spewing radiation of various unknown and possibly dangerous types out into near by space. And so far there is no indication of that.
  Crt Tv sets and monitors give out x-rays, which are next to gamma rays. Not a million times less.
  Betavoltaics - hydrogen isotopes mostly. Not the same thing.
  Let's just wait and see.  I hope that you are right, I really do. But, not counting on it.

  I am really counting on what Tariel has shown, and says, to be true.
This may all be the same thing, ultimately. We just don't know,  yet.


forest

Quote from: NETIKS on April 16, 2013, 07:39:02 PM
Solar flares are teleconnected to earthly radioactive decay:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/23/teleconnected-solar-flares-to-earthly-radioactive-decay/

Strange, Unexplained Solar Influence Over Earth's Radioactive Material Could Herald Solar Flares

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-08/strange-unexplained-solar-influence-over-earths-radioactive-material-could-herald-solar-flares

Very true indeed. Also NickZ comments. Even Einstein imagined matter particle as small vortex, and there is no vortex without outside field...

Hoppy

On the subject of trying unconventional 'out of the box' ideas, take a look at post 5975 where guest quartktoo insists that uninsulated copper tube is used inside TK's and others coils and that this tube is not slotted as convention would dictate. He says the ends of the tube are insulated with tape just to conceal it from view. Expanding on this, the aqua video shows this strange coil arrangement on the end of the co-ax coil. Is this coil wound over copper tube and sending induced current to the green transformer or maybe controlling current conducted through the tube or inducing current into the tube??  Something to ponder on and maybe experiment with.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: Hoppy on April 17, 2013, 05:14:27 AM
Is this coil wound over copper tube and sending induced current to the green transformer or maybe controlling current conducted through the tube or inducing current into the tube??  Something to ponder on and maybe experiment with.
Yes.

Maybe this means nothing but since I love strange coincidences:

Sure it is a mere coincidence that Kapanadze's overunity motor works with a brass and a steel disc connected together and that such a construction with two dissimilar metals is also used to get the Seebeck effect.

And it is also a mere coincidence that there is a lot of insulation foam visible on and around the brass and steel discs, so as if differences in temperatures of these parts are an issue.

The narrator says the foam is there to reduce the noise. But what noise? The noise of two smooth rotating discs needs that extensive damping? Really?

Essentially these two disc are a capacitor, both plates connected via a coil between, resulting in an oscillating circuit and at the same time it is a Seebeck/Peltier element. So no wonder something strange could happen when this configuration is excited by means of a high frequency magnetic field (via the toroidal coil).

Anyone tried a replication yet? A small scale model should do it. :)

BTW: I don't think that TK encountered this by chance.