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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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baroutologos

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exnihiloest
There is a big measurement problem. Due to the diode at the secondary of the , the capacitor is charged only during the positive half cycle, thus the current at the primary is also drawn only during the half cycle.
It is very unlikely that the JLN's power meter could correctly measure power with sinusoidal voltage but no sinusoidal current. It looks intended to measure only regular sinusoidal powers.

Hey man, it has been discussed before. Same mistake by me at first sight. The MOT works both ways and produces a sinus at Phase 1 - the diode works, cap charged to max (2000 volt), the SG cannot fire. (voltage and current have their wave curves)

Phase 2, as voltage from MOT changes polarity, it stacks with Cap voltage and in an additive mode current jumps the SG. (this can happen if one phase voltage cannot jump the gap) Now MOT's voltage and current can have quite irregular wave patterns

BUT, things get complicated as SG may have a very low voltage break down so the "jump" can happen during phase 1 while voltage from MOT is receding.

Anyway, to me the latest 160w measurement of a stable SG is far more reliable than the previously measured that SG worked on hard spikes, that make equipment go crazy.

PS: Measuring equipment can reliably measure power flown from mains with a diode attached anyways and power being drawn irregularly as by applying a SCR. (the good ones at least)

PS2: The need for applying other methods of INPUT measurement and OUTPUT measurement is a MUST.
Nevertheless Naudin seems to trust his "gut" and chases efficiency rather than solidification of the facts reported so far

EDIt: @ MrWolf,

Initially that Naudin's SG worked on hard spikes (unidirectional mostly in this setup since MOT's inductunce chokes HF) efficiency was DOWN. Now with a minute SG working quiet, efficiency is UP.

Stick to the facts and do not mix mumbo-Jumbo theory.

MrWolf

Quote from: baroutologos on June 23, 2010, 04:12:19 AMInitially that Naudin's SG worked on hard spikes (unidirectional mostly in this setup since MOT's inductunce chokes HF) efficiency was DOWN. Now with a minute SG working quiet, efficiency is UP.
Stick to the facts and do not mix mumbo-Jumbo theory.

God made lightning not some mumbo jumbo plasma streams :) So I will stick to His point of view and work in different direction. Maybe in the end there will be less power (my lightning will be tiny and cute) but it will look cool :P

PS. Naudin optimizes his setup for direct load, I'll go for charging stuff.

exnihiloest

Quote from: baroutologos on June 23, 2010, 04:12:19 AM
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Phase 2, as voltage from MOT changes polarity, it stacks with Cap voltage and in an additive mode current jumps the SG. (this can happen if one phase voltage cannot jump the gap) Now MOT's voltage and current can have quite irregular wave patterns

Thanks. Sorry for having missed that.

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BUT, things get complicated as SG may have a very low voltage break down so the "jump" can happen during phase 1 while voltage from MOT is receding.
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Sure. I will soon check it by mounting a resistance of low value in series with the primary, connecting 2 probes on each side, and visualizing the signal with the oscilloscope in differential mode. Imho it is essential to be sure about the input power before any further tests.

I'm waiting for a 1Kw variac I ordered monday for reducing the input voltage, because I'm tired to burn out my light bulbs...
I hope to be able to correctly measure the input current next week end.


kalem

Quote from: penno64 on June 22, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
Lots of small kicks ?

Become big kicks ?

What is the item in the circle ??

Penno

Hi, greetings from Lika, Ex Yugoslavia,

It seems just like plastic holder for construction, nothing else. I will try to replicate SR193 experiment soon according to that hand-writed scheme found on russian forums. Need some info about some components, but will try co calculate 'em. It doesnt matter to me that the output is only 150 W. It is self-looped and it seems genuine. Principle is important and later we can work to increase output power.

I don't understand why SR193 doesn't want to share all info, but ok, his will. If all that has been seen in his YT video is true, we are on the right path.

Does anybody here have direct contact with SR193?

Regards,

Nikola

grizli

Quote from: kalem on June 23, 2010, 04:55:15 AM
Hi, greetings from Lika, Ex Yugoslavia,

It seems just like plastic holder for construction, nothing else. I will try to replicate SR193 experiment soon according to that hand-writed scheme found on russian forums. Need some info about some components, but will try co calculate 'em. It doesnt matter to me that the output is only 150 W. It is self-looped and it seems genuine. Principle is important and later we can work to increase output power.

I don't understand why SR193 doesn't want to  all info, but ok, his will. If all that has been seen in his YT video is true, we are on the right path.

Does anybody here have  with SR193?

Regards,

Nikola

Its not that easy ... principle of SR device is unknown