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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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LtBolo

Quote from: ter on November 04, 2010, 11:03:36 PM
can E-fields *affect* only ferrite core materials? how about powdered iron core?

I'm guessing any ferromagnetic material. The only real issue with powdered iron in this application is the relatively low permeability...which means it is harder to get a high L. Since delta L is a key here, you may find powdered iron a bit limiting.


I took our hipot tester in our lab and put a bit under 4kv on one of these ferrite rolls with cap plates inside and outside and a coil around it. Inductance didn't want to start changing until about 3.5kv, but it did appear to change by about 20%. I also tried a larger device we've built, but it didn't show any affect at about 4kv...which was the max I had available. That fits pretty well the papers I've read that talk about permeability changes in an E field. In those papers, they tend to toss around numbers like 8-18kv per cm. Cosmo said 4kv, but that is overly simplistic...it is really a function of voltage per cm...not absolute voltage.

iws1987

@LtBolo

I know this paper from Harold Aspden:

http://haroldaspden.com/reports/09.pdf

But the relation to E-fields is new to me, do you have a reference to a paper ?

Eric

ter


I guess this core of mine is useless? got the torroids from dead PC PS....

inner dia = 13.5mm
outer dia =  19mm
total of 8 pcs






iws1987

@LtBolo

So could this be what we need ?

A core of high mu ferrite toroids with a sliced copper tube inside the toroids and a sliced copper tube outside the toroids.

The two sliced copper tubes are part of a HV resonant circuit.

On the core we have a coil which is paralleled with a capacitor and exitated in resonance. This controls mu relative of the core.

Using Hectors diode plug to harvest the energy and adjusting the phase between the two tank circuits where the copper tube circuit operates at twice the frequency of the "output" coil circuit with the diode plug.

Could this be a solution ?

Eric

LtBolo

Quote from: iws1987 on November 05, 2010, 12:14:07 AM
But the relation to E-fields is new to me, do you have a reference to a paper ?

I just arrived at the conclusion from Cosmo's references to bifilar coils (which are really just wire wound capacitive plates) and Tiger's design which used foil plates, that this was a E field gradiant causing a saturation effect. Then I did a bit of searching on the net tonight for electrostatic effects on the permeability of ferrite and was very surprised to find many papers talk about that effect.

I'm sorry...typing this on my phone so I really don't have access to the links I was looking at earlier. If you will google "electric field reduce ferrite permeability" you should get several hits on papers that reference the effect.

I noticed one paper that talked about a 36% reduction in permeability at 5kv per cm. That agrees very well with what I saw in our lab and very well with Cosmo's suggestion of 4kv. Depending on the thickness of your ferrite, you may need more or less. A 20% reduction would be more than enough if your coil had enough inductance to start with, but you may need 100mH or so if the reduction in permeability is low. With higher excitation voltage you can get away with far less inductance.