Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[baroutologos]

Guys, we do not have even the facts right here.

Kapanadze device, from what it appears from the vid, uses one ground. Nevertheless could be two.
Kapanadze uses thick wires since expect (and measures) large amperage with a standard clamp meter. (20 amps) If this was a stadard HF oscillator, i assure you that the HF currents could not be measured by the clampmeter. Try it for yourself. Put in the earth ground wire of a Tesla coil an clampmeter and tell me if it shows anything at all. Nothing. (best meters i have found go as much - for voltage - as 10Khz). Except as one collegue said, it uses a combo of frequencies.
eg. one HF and one LF that clamp meter can read..

I have long time wondered about the huge single terminal capacitance and tremendous volts that a standard resonator would require if it were a solo ground point at relatively low frequency. This does not seem to be the case. Large amperage with 2 grounds by the way is perfectly feasible at DC current also.

If Kapanadze uses 2 grounds (as Naudin unsuccessfully tried with his exaggerated and OU claimed device - Kapagen) then it is the question of whats the purpose of it. Frolov also argued that Kapanadze uses 2 grounds. Personally, i would say that it used one.
Anyway, in case 2 grounds are used, i repeat much are explained.

But what's the purpsose of it? pulsing from a device to a ground point and then picking up from another a coule of meters away???
Kapanadze in his cryptic (and perhpas fake - strong word but must never be forgoten that posibility) have many times mentioned the word "Natura" and in another youtube video of many lamps in a transparent box in a garden has spoken about Frequency of the nature or so i was told.

I was reading Frank Waytt Prentice patent that Energie9 posted here. In an abstarct sense its the same (note most of OU alleged devices look the same)
it uses two ground points, a spark-gap, a resonator and a pick circuit.

Perhaps the first and quite unsuccesful Kapagen device by Naudin was a step in the right direction, in the sense trying to "extract energy" from the nature, not just using the ground as a huge capacitance only.

[forest]

From video I saw I state that Kapanadze used one ground.Just because in the last fragment of video he tried the other ground (radiator ) and he was able to light only one bulb. That really recall various Tesl coils with extra coil and a bulb connected to non-grounded cable.
I saw also somewhere explanation that at 1/4 wavelength TC ouput become DC and extra coil and zero volts max current at ground.

[iceweller]

Looking at the video again I believe that his device uses only ONE ground. The first ground is the water pipe tubing connected to the large black cable, the second one they try towards the end  (around the 22nd minute starting with one light bulb) of the tests which is connected to the radiator they bury at the beginning of the footage using the white stranded cable. The UPS/Inverter appears to be a 200-300Watt device (with external battery terminals which he bypassed connecting the 2 thick battery wires directly to the inside). He indicates that the device is "underrated" in order to show that there is an extra current coming from another source. The small black box appears to be a step down transformer with core adapted for the right frequency (220/12) plus diode bridge and possibly some ripple caps (also depending on where he connected the wires inside the inverter or if he added some caps inside it). This at least is what is most evident based on my latest observations. Now the exact coil design and contents of green box is something else. As a further note I saw pictures of SR's core which were a bunch of ferrite rings glued together onto which he wound his coil though I could not verify looking at Tariel's coil setup if there were any. The large external coil appears to me as a hollow copper tube judging by what is shown at the end of the video (55m23s) but unfortunately it's not clear what kind of core he is using (it appears to be masked with some paper tape).

[sigma16]

Guys, we do not have even the facts right here.

Kapanadze device, from what it appears from the vid, uses one ground. Nevertheless could be two.
Kapanadze uses thick wires since expect (and measures) large amperage with a standard clamp meter. (20 amps) If this was a stadard HF oscillator, i assure you that the HF currents could not be measured by the clampmeter. Try it for yourself. Put in the earth ground wire of a Tesla coil an clampmeter and tell me if it shows anything at all. Nothing. (best meters i have found go as much - for voltage - as 10Khz). Except as one collegue said, it uses a combo of frequencies.
eg. one HF and one LF that clamp meter can read..

I have long time wondered about the huge single terminal capacitance and tremendous volts that a standard resonator would require if it were a solo ground point at relatively low frequency. This does not seem to be the case. Large amperage with 2 grounds by the way is perfectly feasible at DC current also.

If Kapanadze uses 2 grounds (as Naudin unsuccessfully tried with his exaggerated and OU claimed device - Kapagen) then it is the question of whats the purpose of it. Frolov also argued that Kapanadze uses 2 grounds. Personally, i would say that it used one.
Anyway, in case 2 grounds are used, i repeat much are explained.

But what's the purpsose of it? pulsing from a device to a ground point and then picking up from another a coule of meters away???
Kapanadze in his cryptic (and perhpas fake - strong word but must never be forgoten that posibility) have many times mentioned the word "Natura" and in another youtube video of many lamps in a transparent box in a garden has spoken about Frequency of the nature or so i was told.

I was reading Frank Waytt Prentice patent that Energie9 posted here. In an abstarct sense its the same (note most of OU alleged devices look the same)
it uses two ground points, a spark-gap, a resonator and a pick circuit.

Perhaps the first and quite unsuccesful Kapagen device by Naudin was a step in the right direction, in the sense trying to "extract energy" from the nature, not just using the ground as a huge capacitance only.

Ground can be a sink or source of electrons.

[iceweller]

Ground can be a sink or source of electrons.

   Exactly. In this case I think the coil needs a good earth connection as there are high current peaks apparently "extracting" electrons from the ground. I read somewhere that Tariel had problems with the gnd connections because of the high rate of oxidisation or corrosion of the gnd points/rods during operation. If the statement is valid then these are more the effects of DC rather than AC, which made me wonder about the modus operandi even if it may also be due to the frequency and high current peaks involved and the nature of the setup. The way I see it is that the coil pulses creating a current peak into the gnd which then responds with a return current which is picked up and fed through the load and back again ad infinitum. However this only works at a certain resonant frequency which I think is where the key is (which is coupled with core and coil setup). The amount of power "capturable" probably depends on the size of the coil, the core material and the gnd connection capacity (= how deep into the gnd and how much equivalent surface it has in other words how well it is connected to the earth "tank"). I think the corrosion is only a local side effect due to the currents involved and not the real modus operandi. Now the reason why the setup exhibits "OU" operation could be because, if it is true that the earth is emitting "pseudo electrostatic" waves (in lack of a better term), then by "tuning" the operation of the device into one of these waves' resonant frequencies it is finally possible to use (= to channel through the gnd connection) these currents for our purposes. Of course this is a personal view which I wish to share hopefully stimulating some further reasoning.