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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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wattsup

I think @Core is very right. I am preparing a long brief on the subject of perspective in the EE domain and why this is playing against us in OU discoveries. It all has to do with perspective.

At 300 odd pages, one would think that almost everything that needs to be said has been said already, but yet there is always something new to see or some new angle to consider.

When I first saw the total video that @iceweller was king enough to point me too, I looked at the video from start to finish using VirtualDubMod video program that enables me to get real close-ups of the device. Too bad there is no transcript when Mr. Tariel is talking and talking because that would be good to know what he is saying.

But for me, his device has to be looked at from several angles at the same time.

The main one is the reason for the two grounding points.

Question: What is more powerful if each are at 2 amps. -300v to 0v or 0v to +300v.

When lighting strikes the Earth, the bolt of light comes down from the clouds 2/3rds of the way and a bolt of lightning rises from the ground 1/3rd of the way until both meet. Where did that energy come from in the ground and how was so much potential being stored there?

The point is it all has to do with potential, and/or the difference in available potential that provides the power. Who cares if it is + or - potential. The battery does not care, the coil does not care, the wires don't care, and I imagine that Mr. Tariel does not care either.

Here is what I think of his device. The worst thing to work with in OU research is a coil. Why? When you energize a coil it produces two polarities that are at opposite ends of the coil and this makes designing loop field devices very difficult. So instead you can use two coils with opposing polarities against a third coil and pulse the first two coils to have that north/south impress onto the third coil. But this wastes tremendous amounts of energy since half the first two coils are not being used to impress on the third coil. Even if you added a fourth coil that is placed at the other end, you are still pulsing two coils and hoping to get back more which we all know is very difficult to achieve. I think Mr. Tariel realized this also after endless hours or years of working with coils. There was no way of getting any gain.

Then we have to consider that most EE study sort of blinds you into always thinking that electricity is traveling in a wire from positive to negative as we see on drawn circuits, but, in actual fact the EE knows behind the scenes that electricity is traveling from negative to positive, but the drawing convention was maintained for some odd reason. So which one is it. Or, why should one or the other be right. Why not always consider that both positive and negative are equal and it is only our measuring devices that are designed to see it in either one way or the other. Some of this goes way deeper then I am prepared to go into here but it is only to say STOP THINKING CONVENTIONAL.

Then comes the ground connection. He is using a very thick fine mutlistrand wire
for both ground leads.

Now when you put a positive and negative on a coil you get two polarities, north and south. So what will happen if you put two negatives coming from the ground onto one coil. Will it produce only on polarity in that coil? Hey, how can that be? Well why should it not be?

Remember above I said a coil produces fields at each end of the coil. Now wind a coil on another coil at same lengths. Pulse one and you produce one polarity per end and the impress can only happen to the other coil at its ends also. This is the limit of what we are doing now and that other coil still has to deal with a blotch wall or neutral central and it still has to work out a way of moving that impress into another object for it to be useful. There is a great amount of countering happening there because both poles from the first coil appear at the same time over the second coil. This is a far cry from how a generator  motor works where the north and south pass alternately over a coil mass. Maybe I am not explaining this properly but it is not easy to explain in the first place. A pulsed coil wound with a pickup coil will never do the same thing as a turning rotor can do to a fixed stator.

So what's so special about Mr. Tariels' device. Well you see his fat 6 turns coil is wound far away from the central one layer coil and on one end there is a second two layer coil wound next to the fat coil. So you have a fat 6 turn coil over a one layer long coil and at the end you have a shorter two layer coil.

Why would you do this pretty cockamamie design? And why would you use two thick ground leads? Well, when you consider what I have said above, you can start to see that the fat coil is biased to the Earths polarity and being over the complete inner coil, that one polarity is covering the inner coil with one permanent field polarity. The coil wound at the end is connected in a way so that the end facing towards the fatter coil is the opposite polarity then the one coming from the fat coil that is biased by the ground polarity. So you now have a polarity coming from the fat coil and one coming from one side of the two layer coil. Now as you pulse the two layer coil, that one polarity shoots outwards and over the inner coil and it also excites the field from the biased fat coil. When the pulse on the two layer coil is off, the field from the fat coil now re-enters that space and the inner coil sees this back and forth movement of the fields just like a stator would see a rotor moving across it, with an alternating north then south field.

The main discipline here is to make sure you do not overdo the two layer pulsing which is your main variable. If that two layer coil is pulsed perfectly to match the strength of the fat coil and match the speed and duty width at which the fat coil can reclaim its space, you now have a pretty efficient start for building a power generator.

I'll stop here for now and hope some of you got the message clear enough.

wattsup

PS: Some others things quickly.

1) The fat 6 turn coil does not look like copper at all but is simply iron rod that is turned. There is no need for copper if that coil is there to simply make the ground field presence without using any pulsing.

2) When he put that black box (high mF capacitor) in parallel to the battery and eventually he removed the battery cables to show the capacitor was now running the device, like a power buffer, but there is now way that one capacitor box could have run them bulbs alone for longer then a few seconds. So something is definitely happening there.

3) The green box is probably holding some high voltage capacitors and that is why they are covered for safety purposes. This is evidenced by the spark gap that is probably used to pulse the two layer coil at high voltages to create a big enough field to cover the inner coil.

4) The two SCRs with the fan are probably used alternately one to pulse the spark gap and one to deviate the flyback to the battery or tank capacitor.

5) The fat inner wire that goes through the coils center is just an extension of the outer 6 turn coil providing both an outer and inner Earth field presence.

6) The thickness of the wire is directly related to the amperage produced. Too thin and you are only producing voltage.

7) This is by no means a total explanation of the device but it should give you guys some more rules on how to play the game and how to base some new small experiments.

freshcutgrass

@Core

Misinterpreted your last statement, do you mean that Tariel's device has connected his spark gap wire to one of the wire coils within the diameter of the copper coil?  Or that he has a wire from the spark gap in between the copper coil and the inner copper wires (which doesn't seem very smart).

If the former is what you meant, I ask if it is always necessary for the primary coil to be located concentrically outside the secondary?  It is advantageous and overwhelmingly common practice to do so, but to perform its function as a resonant circuit, must it be outside the secondary?

freshcutgrass

Wattsup

Interesting post, I'll read your ideas more fully another day.  One point, the convention of current flowing from pos to neg is, I think, confined to the UK.  Just about everyone else in the world bases their electrical convention on current flowing neg to pos, which is supposedly how electrons move (I prefer moving charge).  This is a legacy of older circuit theory that Brits never updated.

TEKTRON

Quote"I ask again show me a Tesla device that has the spark gap wire running inside the copper tubing. Do I have any takers?"

Respectfully,

Core


Hi all, This is my first post. For the last couple of months I have been thinking this might be an inside out primary Tesla Hairpin circuit with multiple windings as output taps and very cleverly configured to disguise it. Very similar if not the exact same as this http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9846. Granted this new one has a "special mixing cap", Just my uneducated opinion and I will attempt to prove it .  Thanks,John

freshcutgrass

@ wattsup

Firstly, apologies for replying piecemeal to your post.

Re Tariel's thick earth leads, I suspect this is because he was experiencing or expecting large currents at these points.  I recall watching a coiler video, (can't reference this though) where there was some serious arcing at the base between primary and earthed secondary.  If Tariel's secondary is a resonating series LC/half or full wave mag loop, I'd expect the current SWR there to be high.  Of course, it could be those were the cables available to him at the time.