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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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WilbyInebriated

Quote from: exnihiloest on December 11, 2010, 07:02:01 AM
In fact, you are reversing the burden of proof. If you assert that you can transmit energy with efficiency at long distance by electrically coupled circuits, you should show us the experimental evidence.
in fact, i am doing no such thing. in fact, i have made no such assertion. i simply commented that by using your logic the grid is also 'useless' since it fits the same criteria.
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wattsup

Quote from: FatBird on December 10, 2010, 08:47:10 AM
WattsUp,  Can you please post some information so we can duplicate what you are doing? Thanks.

@FatBird

What I am doing now is only exploratory but once I have something really worth while don't worry, I will draw it and post it.

@baroutologos

Regarding the isolated standing box, I agree it will be more subject to all the conservation laws.

There is more then frequency, you need the right width so the circuit does not over-saturate and kill itself before it even starts. Some effects only work at 10%, others at 30% or 60%. Without such flexibility in experimenting, you could have brushed right close to a good effect but seen none, so the chance is gone.

For low voltage/amperage pulsing I use my trusty 20mhz HP pulse generator that lets me quickly find hot spots but only at low impulse up to 16vdc at mA's. I still want two more for frequency mixing. For higher stresses I use this and my power supply or battery via one or more mosfets. 

What I want now is to make a spark gap that I can control the frequency and the width and the voltage. This is where it will get even more interesting.

In the TK device, what is somewhat perplexing is why did he need his inverter.

He goes from 12vdc, into an inverter that outputs 220vac before the two white wires enter the green box. Now 220vac is serious business since it can develop some good amperage levels if required. If he was using that 220vac to input into a neon ballast to produce his higher voltage to the spark gap, I don't think he needed that much amperage to produce it. The spark gap is fine and quiet and for me this means it is at a pretty high enough frequency. That frequency is probably being controlled by his two scrs on the top of the green box. Since he already has 220vac available for his neon ballast that requires a feed of AC, this means much less circuitry is required so I think those two scrs are used to then pulse the high voltage to the spark gap. From there he is probably feeding off one side of the spark gap into his special transformer.

He was pointing to Teslas' pancake coil and we know such a coil will offer more capacitive action so if his transformer was wound in bifilar mode and not just one or two single wire layers, this could offer him more capacitive action and also by doing so the transformer would become a good buffer zone between the spark gap and the bulbs. Now he only needs one positive lead from his transformer to go to the bulbs with the right potential attributes to light them up with that grounded wire on the other side.

Now if you remove all the "extracurricular activities" from TK's setup, you are basically left with a spark gap, a specially wound transformer, five bulbs and an Earth ground. Those are the real R&D points.

I can also say that by the way the green box was easily lifted by his counterparts, that box did not contain a load of batteries.

So if one side of the bulb is on negative then the free side has to go to positive, right. If TK's transformer coil has only one in and one out, for the out to be a positive potential, the wire coming from the green box to the transformer has to be a positive? Or is it a negative? The problem at that point is - will the transformer act like a transformer or will it just act like a fancily wound single wire? So both polarities will have to be tested off the spark gap sides.

Just keep in mind that the whole reason for all the gizmos he used was to ultimately build a supply "loop" of which only a positive potential is sensed to a bulb that is Earth grounded. Nothing more, nothing less.

If this works, then it will be because it is not regulated by conservation theory due to it being an open system. It will also show that electricity does not travel but is simply "spin convenyance". Give a wire the right spin conveyance regardless of being two separate sources and the bulb will light up. lol

So..... you can have a device that is only perfectly unity 1:1 running in a loop with no loss and no gain and because you just draw on the positive side you are enjoying the spin effect but not spending in the overhead. I think this is how his device works.

SR193 just took away the inverter and produced his high voltage for his spark gap with a pulsed dc into some capacitor discharged before the gap. If he was producing AC from his DC input he would have required four mosfets like an H-Bridge. Then the rest of it is how to re-condense the high voltage spark back to a suitable positive potential for his bulb.

iceweller

@ wattsup
SR appears to use a flyback setup to produce his HV, which works starting from low voltage DC current which is what he had. Possibly TK uses 220V as start section because this is what he also had available as components to produce the HV - read this this way: an old TV set with a working flyback circuit to use. Secondly, to run the first stage he could directly use the mains, subsequently looping it with a transformer and inverter which he had also available. Occam's razor.
I believe what both SR and TK say, and that the device basically is not complex (then again, nothing is complex when you know how to do it). The key is in the coil and "pickup" frequency so to speak. This is what we need to focus on.
I believe these 2 devices, even if they appear different, use the same working principle (as possibly others).

@baroutologos: did you read the letter Tesla wrote to Robert (Luka) mentioning the self running device article by Clemente Figueras? This letter was transcribed for easier reading - I can send you the document FYI if you have not already. It was discovered by Oliver some years ago and transcribed (which was pretty hard as Tesla's handwriting is not easy to decipher!). It should be also on Oliver's I linked some messages back.

TEKTRON

Quote from: wattsup on December 10, 2010, 08:29:16 AM
Can I just get one major point across. You absolutely need an Earth ground on one side of the bulb or load you are driving. Then play with the positive side only.

I have done some tests last night with my 0 awg wire going to my house piping. By the way, my house piping comes in as 3/4" thick copper type but it stops there after into plastic piping so the house is not creating an effect and there are no other devices grounded to the piping.

My main comparison is the tests I had done in my "pulsing coils and lighting leds" videos. I have not seen so much performance on the leds with only my positive going from my pulse generator, no negative. Just that one wire and the other side going to Earth ground. I hit a major effect at around 2100 hertz.

I cannot say it more directly. All experiments should include a Earth ground to one side of the bulb or led or load. I will try this again during the weekend but this time with a real bulb and  a mosfet through my power supply to find the right frequency-width. This is not as complicated as it seems.

Also, there is not much more to see in the TK video. I also have the annotated SR youtube video now transferred to AVI format so I will use VirtualDubMod to try and make a real wiring diagram of his set-up. He was very generous with the videoing angles so I can get in real close.

But Earth ground on one side of the load is the prerequisite starting point otherwise you will be working with the wrong final effect.


Hey Watts, Ive been reading all over the place including the Russian forums for the last couple of months tiring to get up to speed. I remember reading somewhere TK saying that he can now do it with out any ground.... My 2 cents

PS. I do believe this is a NEW CLEVERLY DISGUISED, use of a HAIRPIN L2 with L3 and L4 as SECONDARYS.... I'm working on it ....

TEKTRON

Quote from: iceweller on December 11, 2010, 01:51:58 PM
@ wattsup
SR appears to use a flyback setup to produce his HV, which works starting from low voltage DC current which is what he had. Possibly TK uses 220V as start section because this is what he also had available as components to produce the HV - read this this way: an old TV set with a working flyback circuit to use. Secondly, to run the first stage he could directly use the mains, subsequently looping it with a transformer and inverter which he had also available. Occam's razor.
I believe what both SR and TK say, and that the device basically is not complex (then again, nothing is complex when you know how to do it). The key is in the coil and "pickup" frequency so to speak. This is what we need to focus on.
I believe these 2 devices, even if they appear different, use the same working principle (as possibly others).

@baroutologos: did you read the letter Tesla wrote to Robert (Luka) mentioning the self running device article by Clemente Figueras? This letter was transcribed for easier reading - I can send you the document FYI if you have not already. It was discovered by Oliver some years ago and transcribed (which was pretty hard as Tesla's handwriting is not easy to decipher!). It should be also on Oliver's I linked some messages back.

In an old TK vid, in the garden, lights hanging from the trees, Plexiglas box...look at the back of the circuit board.... Looks to me a HV section from a TV...An old TV tech could probably identify the chassis. I think somewhere I have a better vid copy W/O all the noise and scrambled audio.  ;)