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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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quarktoo

Quote from: core on January 21, 2011, 11:38:42 AM
Absolutely, I will try this.

  How ironic, about half year ago I started pointing out the similarities between TK's device and a refrigeration system. At the time I stated that in a refrigeration system there is a massive energy exchange when a refrigerant is subjected to a 'change of state'. It is this change of state that must be investigated and incorporated into these devices.

By no fault but my own I dropped my theories and followed what was being spoken about at the time. Needless to say what Q2 is saying makes a heck of a lot of sense to me.

Respectfully,

Core

Core you just made my day after a long week. I came back here and looked what was going on and saw two threads that needed to be fixed.

Tseung's thread and this one. I decided to try and kill Tseung's thread and his cabal of busy bodies that can't understand impedance mismatch (joule thief) and fix this one.

In the near future I am planning to write up a nice pdf on Meyer and clear up that whole mess. Then I plan to write something up to teach people what electricity is and how to stop destroying the OU that it is created with. That would go a long way to fixing the OU confusion. Sound like you get the whole proton freeing idea.

When you feel the need to turn your scope upside down, you'll know that you get it all the way.

An particle is always being being fed from the universe. That particle is an effect, not a cause. It is formed from vortex two waves tip to tip, turning in opposite directions and the particle is rolled between. Energy is flowing down through the center IN BOTH DIRECTIONS at the speed of light.

The reason the electron appears and disappears is it is literally going in and out of this dimension. Those two waves are made of time. You are particles and somewhat like the dielectric of a capacitor. You leak a little but that creates some energy flow and relative motion so you can exist.

The Atom is a larger fractal of that. When you align a bunch of them, you get a magnetic field. You can align the atoms of plastic while it hardens and turn that into a magnet just as easily as iron..

The phonon snaps that aperture open. Iron will stay open unlike most metals and so it will produce a permanent magnet. If we drop the permanent magnet on the floor, a phonon is produced and the aperture closes up thus destroying the magnet.

Oxygen O1 on the other hand being a gas is flexible and so it snaps right back to closed once the voltage is turned off. But that spark gap cavitation is what pops it open nice and wide.

Now that is all mostly basic an accepted science. Mostly...

Here is the part that is not but I can prove with experiment. When you open that aperture, the universe flows through that magnet in BOTH directions at a much higher flow rate. I feel this is part of why The Schwartzchild proton paper is off a bit on the predicted size of a magnetic field by 2.5 times calculated or correlated from the size of the universe. Nassim uses a magnetics model that is wrong.

Now if you understand at some imaginary, but real mechanical level what is going on with electricity and a magnet, things start to be simple and understandable. The models we are currently teaching in this regard are 180 degrees wrong. Paradox has a way of sounding true huh?

You sound switched on Core and I am sorry we hit it off wrong. I know how I am but I also know what I know. It comes with the turf.

I'm planning to build a cool experiment soon for Nassim and ship it to him to help him prove his position. I feel he will eventually be the next Einstein only he will get it right. The experiment is a mind blower because it is going to prove to you that so far, I have only taught you EXACTLY HALF of what electricity is. The other half is the half of the spring. The vacuum of zero point is 10 - ^93 of where we are right now. The entire universe as we know it, can be proven to fit into to 10 cm3.

I break my rule and make a vid for you before I ship it.

Anyway, at the end of the day, I totally get that I am the smallest and least important thing in this universe bar none.

Nappy time

quarktoo

Read what I wrote yesterday about looking at the devices more closely. Why are there tubes and hoses on a transformer? Find that wood shop being run with a free energy device and you will see your pinched off tube in that video too.

Glad you are excited. Understanding AB effect is really the key to understanding it all. It is a fractal universe.

quarktoo

Quote from: LtBolo on January 21, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
According to the quantum guys, electrons absorb photons when they accelerate, and emit photons when they decelerate. Not suggesting cause and effect, just noting the correlation. Refrigeration systems absorb heat when they convert to gas, and emit heat when they convert to liquid. Apparently, it takes less energy to force the respective phase change than it will absorb/emit through the phase change.

A capacitively dominant transmission line (a flat solenoid at resonance, a Tesla secondary), seems to be increasing voltage kinetically by accelerating electrons. The natural outcome of that is that the spacing between electrons should be increasing...rarefying, if you will...and becoming more gaseous. Sound familiar?

What if a Tesla secondary works like a refrigeration system, and is absorbing photonic energy from somewhere while accelerating, and emitting photonic energy while decelerating. And then the big 'what if' that follows, is what if the energy is being pumped in/out of the aether.

Not a theory, just fodder for thought.

If my thought fodder is allowed yours is golden. I  have developed [obviously] my own version of physics based on simple laws that make sense to me. You sound like a smart person, forget the books and just give me a common sense push back.

Quote from: LtBolo on January 21, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
According to the quantum guys, electrons absorb photons when they accelerate, and emit photons when they decelerate. Not suggesting cause and effect, just noting the correlation.

There seems to be some debate on what a photon is and why it acts the way it does so I'll tell you what I think.

I think an electron or any particle is two vortex waves tip to tip sinning in different directions with the particle rolled in between as stated. But, it is only spinning on 1 axis.

Next - I convert the electron to a photon:
I have an electron and it is a basketball spinning on a single axis on my finger. I flip my finger towards me and the ball up into the air. It is now spinning on two different axises at two different speeds. OK?

Since that waves and particle have gyroscopic effect, and gyroscopic precession takes place 90 degrees down rotation, the two precessions act against each other directly at times.

The gyroscopic precession forces working against each other, cause the photon to lose energy and subsequently emit light (Bohr model of the atom) What was the gravity of the particle is now converted to light.

The zig zag pattern of flight of the photon is due to these two precession forces acting against each other and exchanging mass and energy between the two waves. The differential in speed of the two waves is what determines the wavelength of light.

This is what causes the zig zag flight path of a photon and why it appears and disappears. At times the photon may either be neutral or in and out of the local frame - not sure which but I suspect both.

The photon like any particle is always being fed from those two forces of vacuum and pressure - light and dark matter. All good

So far we know that I feel an photon is a basketball and why it behaves the way it does is a result of the Harlem globe trotters..

next...

Quoteelectrons absorb photons when they accelerate, and emit photons when they decelerate

When mass is accelerating, it is gaining energy. It wants to absorb energy and so would absorb an electron perhaps. (Bohr) I think it is really just an entanglement.

Now lets take that model I just explained an shoot that photon at a double slit.

Since the wave is really two vortex waves, and it of course is random depending on where in the precession shift it is regardless of wavelength, sometimes, the photon goes the the right slit, or the left slit or BOTH slits since that photon can be split in half just like an electron can be split in half during Aharonov Bohm effect.

I know I suck at explaining things but you can see how quantum physics just hit the trash can if you apply basic physics to a physical object that can be mechanically modeled on a large scale and will perform as advertised.

I can also explain the effect of the observer on the experiment, and prove it experimentally but won't do it here and now.

QuoteA capacitively dominant transmission line (a flat solenoid at resonance, a Tesla secondary), seems to be increasing voltage kinetically by accelerating electrons. The natural outcome of that is that the spacing between electrons should be increasing...rarefying, if you will...and becoming more gaseous. Sound familiar?

Agreed. E=MC2 The faster it goes, the faster it wants to go. Nicely stated.

QuoteRefrigeration systems absorb heat when they convert to gas, and emit heat when they convert to liquid. Apparently, it takes less energy to force the respective phase change than it will absorb/emit through the phase change.

Agreed - I would state it this way:
The GAS atoms absorb heat as they go from a high energy compressed liquid state to a lower energy gas state. Etc.

Now about that aether... Humans have zero concept of size or time from a universal perspective. Thankfully, that will never change. Just particles smaller than an electron and I think a permanent magnet streams them in both directions as do any energy field.

Any chance you could watch this video and help me go over his math to figure out why his magnetic field is off by 2.5? You would love the video and the paper is brief. [No pun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y5bXdx5UrE&feature=player_embedded

You sound like a pretty smart guy and have a nice way of compacting you writing. I wish that gift and I am sure that is unanimous.

quarktoo

Quote from: LtBolo on January 21, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
And then the big 'what if' that follows, is what if the energy is being pumped in/out of the aether.

Not a theory, just fodder for thought.

Sorry I missed that -

The problem I have with that is it assumes that the aether is somewhere else and that was proven wrong by Miller.

It is nothing more than particles smaller than an electron. An electron is made of parts of it in that aether is a fractal of electrons.

The reason permanent magnet particles goes right through you copper wire is the particles are smaller than an electron. That field is made of something physical and it is moving but they go right between every atom UNLESS the magnet starts moving and here is why.

Suppose you get all your neighbors to park their cars on the street. It is easy for you to cross the street without bumping into a car. But suppose they start driving around the block at 50 MPH. Odds are pretty good, when you try and cross that street, some of your mass (magnetic particles) and the car (wire) are going to collide and there is going to be an energy transfer.

So sure, a magnetic field is made of aether and probably some electrons too if you ask me. You breath eather, it flows through you and your house and the mountains and trees and ground to a depth of about 100 meters and altitude of 300 meters.

Aether is to electrons what sand is to gravel.

I am sure that electrons exchange with the aether when AB effect occurs. It is the smoke and dust of a nuclear sun or black hole in space. Energy source for this coil, not in a million years. 


LtBolo

Quote from: quarktoo on January 21, 2011, 02:54:55 PM
Any chance you could watch this video and help me go over his math to figure out why his magnetic field is off by 2.5? You would love the video and the paper is brief.

I have seen it. I found it very inspiring, although really haven't taken the time to dwell on it and understand the detail. I tend to be a very intuitive big picture thinker...but details make my head hurt. Works great for me at my company. As the president and vision guy, I can wave my arms and say vision-y things and then trust that my engineering staff is actually as smart as I pretend to be. ;)

Quote from: quarktoo on January 21, 2011, 02:54:55 PM
You sound like a pretty smart guy and have a nice way of compacting you writing.

Ah, but that is part of the illusion.


I tend to view things more spatially than the other folks I work with. I see things as shapes and relationships, but not so much as numbers and equations. This is great for architecting systems, not always so great for other things. My struggle with free energy is that I desperately want to lump all OU type behaviors into one or more piles...and then classify the way they work in abstract forms. It drives the random experimenters among us nuts, but I have to have a working theory before I do anything in the lab.

One aspect of electricity I have observed is that there are really fundamentally different behaviors depending on whether it is moving fast or moving slow. Electricity as we normally work with it is moving at the speed of warm putty. Electricity that is being pushed by an electric field moves fast...like in a TT. Interestingly enough, nowhere in conventional electronics do we ever consider the kinetic energy of current, yet clearly, when charge is moving fast enough the kinetic energy becomes relevant. It stands to reason that so-called radiant energy is really just photonic and you start getting a bunch of it when you start speeding up and slowing down electrons. If there were conservation here, I would expect that the bigger the resonance, the lower the Q...because all of the photon pumping would be loading the coil. Do we see that in practice? If not, that suggests that the photonic energy may be free.

If the speed of an electron creates space between them, then perhaps the faster they move the more gas-like they become, and the slower, the more putty-like. If gas atoms can pump heat through such a process, then perhaps electrons can perform a similar...but lower level...function of pumping vacuum energy. That would actually suggest that a TT is OU as it sits...but...the magic is in figuring out how to use the energy...the photonic energy has to be collected without disturbing the source. Since at those frequencies, dang near anything nearby is a capacity...which lowers freq and Q...it is an interesting balancing act.

If that's true, TK's device could simply be a TT and a mechanism for harvesting some percentage of the excess and feeding it back to the source. At 150%, it would wind up pretty fast. If he were using a spark gap as the overload protection, then in addition to the high freq of the TT, there would be a discharge rate of the protection spark...which depending on how fast it wound up...could be something more like 10s or 100s of Hertz...perhaps even 50Hz. Such an approach would make the 3 phase system of manageable complexity.

I have absolutely no proof. Just ideas.


Just saw your follow up message...I used the term 'aether'...but what I really meant was what I usually call the 'energy substrate'...aka...the big huge pile of snort that powers the universe. What would you prefer to call it?