Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[dllabarre]

in this schematics inside coil are not provided

That's what I thought you would say.

Thank you for confirming my thought.

Thanks for all your help.  I'm actually understanding this now.   

DonL

[broli]

A ferrite core on the outside of a coil has almost no effect on the inductance, and as such, would be nearly impossible to saturate from the inside out...that says the saturating coil must be on the outside. So far, I'm not seeing much effect on the inside coil, no matter what I do, but clearly somebody thinks it's useful.

If the current in both coils goes in opposite direction then the field will be concentrated between them,the place of the ferrite ring, and be near zero in the middle of the whole. If that's the case in his setup or has any benefit is unknown.

[LtBolo]

If the current in both coils goes in opposite direction then the field will be concentrated between them,the place of the ferrite ring, and be near zero in the middle of the whole. If that's the case in his setup or has any benefit is unknown.

I agree that it will be concentrated in the ferrite, at least until the ferrite saturates, after which it's anybody's guess, but it appears that it will change the way the two coils interact.

As for whether there is any benefit, I guess we are supposed to assume the pictures are from a functional devices, although admittedly Cosmo didn't claim that. Actually, he never mentioned where the pictures are from, did he? However, we may need to try and understand what would happen in that configuration. There is apparently some aspect of physics that isn't in the books, and these devices use it. If this was obvious, or using well understood techniques, I think it would be common knowledge by now...so...no matter how strange it is, whatever is left needs to be explored...

[core]

A ferrite core on the outside of a coil has almost no effect on the inductance, and as such, would be nearly impossible to saturate from the inside out...that says the saturating coil must be on the outside. So far, I'm not seeing much effect on the inside coil, no matter what I do, but clearly somebody thinks it's useful.

Well let me throw this at you. What if a saturated core is just a means to facilitate transport of energy from one stream to the other? This 'other' stream would then contain the additional energy that was picked up in the transfer.

Respectfully,

Core

[LtBolo]

Honestly, I have no clue Core. I will also say that I hate the games...and this whole thing feel like a child's game (warmer...warmer...HOT...smokin' HOT!...colder...ice cold...etc, etc, ad nauseum).

A simple question that I would love answered is..."Where does the extra energy enter the system?" That one answer would completely shape the course of my research. Cosmo suggests very strongly that parameter change is where that happens, but won't come right out and say it. Inductive parameter change is well known (among FE circles, anyway) to increase the energy in the circuit by 0.5*dL*I² and capacitive parameter change does the same by 0.5*dC*V². Is that added energy 'free'? Great question. Dollard seemed to think so...but he don't come around here no more...as we say here in Tennessee. If so, then we just need to efficiently jack the current up in the secondary, then saturate the core while the current is high, and collect the energy. On the other hand, it takes energy to saturate that core, and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that the energy gained and saturation energy were equal.

My very first question on the subject of parameter change, was whether the core would saturate at an energy discount due to the ferro-resonance. Meaning, if rather than a conventional saturation, where we simply run out of core material to charge, we gain a saturation-like behavior where the ferrite molecules are resonating and therefore look more like ferrite above the Curie temperature...non magnetic. If the latter is the case, this is easier than we are making it. If not, then we are back to exotic physics that I don't understand and am rapidly arriving at the end of my patience.

It would be a dandy thing to get an actual straight answer, but clearly that ain't gonna happen.