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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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freshcutgrass

@ Baroutologos

Work with what works best.  Just out of interest, does Primary No 3 require more power to run than No 2?

Agree with your comment on C to L ratio, I recollect reading Tesla once said 'a high capacitance, low inductance primary is the worst kind of circuit'.

Series and parallel LC's are analogous to mag loop and electric dipole antennae.  I think the intention is to impose our frequency on the immediate region and then collect the results.  If you can spend the time to read good books on EM, radio and transmission line theory, I'm sure it will help.

@ Core

Your description sounds uncannily similar to the phenomena that Joseph Henry accidentally discovered back in 1842, whilst he experimented with coils, which triggered the development of radio in the first place.

@Shokac

As I understand, the TC is not a transformer as a electrical engineer would define it, but it does step up voltage, so qualifies as a transformer in the strictest sense of the word.  I think Lenz's Law still applies, otherwise LC's would not work as they do.  But the (potential) RF gain in the secondary over the input to the primary gives the appearance that Lenz's Law has been broken.

My understanding is that current at the toroid is almost entirely absent, where the voltage is huge, no gain there.  At the base, current is huge, volts are minute, again no gain. BUT, there is current AND voltage at either end.  If you can tap off the out-of-phase current and voltage, the reactive power can be staggering.  The trick is to do this without spoiling the tune in the coils.  Good luck!

baroutologos

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@ baroutologos
The problem with a spark gap in a LC circuit is that it completely modulates the circuit parameters, especially the Q factor, because the ionic channel between th...

Speaking out of experience i know the cleanest resonance is given in a Kacher, where a transistor's base is directed connected to LC (tesla coil like).
I have achieved also to resonance  a LC (L variable till 400uH and C 2,4....20nF) clean, with a 555-timer pulsing a transistor, and all connected in the Odin Coil topology. (Primary is a part of secondary, but you pulse few last turns, see drawing. I have posted it before)

Honestly, i cannot see the problem you indicate with the spark-gap. Indeed SG resistance goes from open circuit to almost none. Also ionization is involved, but an LC circuit will resonate at its fundamental frequency as well as the signal will include other frequencies as well but seriously attenuated in comparison to main oscillation. (the R defines the Q not frequency)

In practice, the main problem with "shock excited" resonance of a SG and that of a Kacher is the fact that the first in same power levels demonstrates far more energetic behaviour but the action is intermittent whereas a Kacher will have a smooth uninterrupted resonance. (sparks can be 3-5 times longer, depending the SG breakdown, but an FL tube demonstrates the nature of the resonance)

Also i believe the break of a SG at irregular intervals (except is a rotary one) and in case in the meantime the secondary's LC oscillation has not stopped, may "conflict" even though i lack the equipment to say definitely.

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Anyway, today's solid state devices are good enough for replacing SGs etc, but i think they are two equally valid ways. In any case, the patents examined date way back from the discovery of solid state components. :)

ps: @  Above,

Cannot say really if the 3 require more power. It seemed to me more "efficient" judging with the eye the output of a Tesla coil.

Pinoy_Tech

Quote from: nievesoliveras on December 02, 2010, 07:02:02 AM
Sorry I missed this one, it seems a work well done!

It is on page 307.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg264817#msg264817

Jesus

... just for info on that ckt, actual positioning of Transistor 2SC4020
on pcb pattern is 180 degrees reversed, diagram correct... no claimed
effects on our project yet!

thanks,
<jronel>


exnihiloest

Quote from: baroutologos on December 04, 2010, 07:53:24 PM
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Honestly, i cannot see the problem you indicate with the spark-gap. Indeed SG resistance goes from open circuit to almost none.
...

It is not a problem when thinking about a kind of relaxation oscillator: each pulse to the LC circuit when the resistance is low, is transformed into a damped oscillation when the resistance is high. And so on at each pulse, presuming the pulse repetition is at a much lower frequency than the oscillations appearing between two successive pulses. But it is not interesting because conventional:
- the pulses from the SG are still broadband energy (by definition of "pulse")
- the oscillations restore the energy that the pulse provides (less the losses)
It is the principle of the old arc transmitters of the beginning of the 20th century.

Something new would be to force the arc itself at a particular frequency, making the plasma channel an integral part of the resonance, may be a key point in Kapanadze's device.