Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[core]

Excuse my ignorance but on the patent picture that was posted does anyone else find it strange that the spark gap/points are 'Before' the high voltage module?

Respectfully,

Core

[34 SNOW]

It is very interisting but...Why the tremendous need for such great secrecy?  and what is the seemingly mid size plastic pipe aiming toward the creek or draw in the background?

[core]

It is very interisting but...Why the tremendous need for such great secrecy?  and what is the seemingly mid size plastic pipe aiming toward the creek or draw in the background?

Huh...

Respectfully,

Core

[LtBolo]

I'm stuck on a theory.

In a refrigeration system, the COP is greater than 1. How does that work?

1. We compress a gas. The mechanical input energy is equal to the pressure and distance of the compression and is given by the ideal gas law.
2. While compressing, the gas increases in temperature.
3. Eventually the gas becomes a liquid, yielding the additional heat of phase change. At this point, the liquid has two different sources of heat energy: a) the increased heat from compression per the gas law, and b) the heat of phase change. You only paid for 'a'.
4. We remove the heat.
5. We allow the liquid to evaporate back to gas. While doing so, it absorbs heat two ways: a) to cause the phase change, and b) expansion from gas law.
6. Rinse and repeat, using the output to heat your house for a fraction of the cost of electric resistance heat, or cool your beer. Important during the Super Bowl.

The point is that we use 1 unit of mechanical energy to move 1 unit of ideal gas law heat and n additional units of phase change heat. Per theory, that process can have a COP over 10, but I don't remember the exact max theoretical value. High efficiency home units have COPs of 5 or more. The process works. The extra energy is absorbed from available ambient heat...nothing created or destroyed...just separated to be more useful.

Ok...here's the theory...and yes, I have described parts of it before...

We know from the quantum guys that electrons absorb and emit photons when accelerated and decelerated. Personally, I think that is just their way of describing radiant energy. In a way, that process sounds curiously like the refrigeration system above. We apply some energy to accelerate charge. It then has the kinetic energy we applied, plus, it absorbs radiant energy from somewhere. As it slows back down, it gives back the kinetic energy as impact voltage, plus, it gives back the absorbed radiant energy. We witness that radiant energy process as every electrical appliance within 20 feet going completely nuts when we run spark gap coils.

Here's the rub. The radiant portion...the gain...is disordered and chaotic, much like heat. It shows up as spread spectrum common mode splatter. The challenge is in grabbing it and converting it back into something more orderly...and doing so in such a way that it doesn't produce magnetic fields that disrupts the 1/4 wave resonator that is producing it to begin with.

The myriad of bifilar coils and capacitive plates and center ground leads and coils around caps and etc and etc, all sound to me like methods for gathering disordered radiant energy and producing something bipolar that we can use to power a load...and doing so in a way that doesn't produce a magnetic field that will dampen the source.

If that process does work more like refrigeration, then it is the simple process of speeding up electrons to the point that they will emit a photon (or whatever you wish to call it) when decelerated. That is what I would consider to be the equivalent of the phase change in a refrigerant. Why? Look at a capacitive spark discharge versus an inductive discharge. Totally different beast. They look different, sound different, and act different. Much like a liquid and a gas.

If electron energy states parallel gas/liquid phase changes, then the Tesla coil may simply make it possible to separate charges for a fraction of the energy that the discharge would contain. No exotic theories required. Not OU in the sense of magic power from beyond, but with a COP greater than 1. Now the source of the radiant energy that was absorbed initially...might...be from some quantum source, but I don't think it is required for the theory to work.

Here's another little tidbit: If it does turn out that radiant energy is really just some form of photon, and it also turns out that when a photon strikes a conductor it doesn't knock an electron loose, it actually becomes one, then the output of these devices might be pulsed or dirty DC. That being the case, TK's use of multiple coils and spark gaps might be more about creating interference patterns to give 50Hz, and not about producing the gain itself. Many of the more credible devices are said to produce some form of DC...not AC.

Another thought: If a Tesla secondary is absorbing energy at the point of acceleration...the bottom of the coil...and emitting energy at the point it slows down...the top of the coil...where does all of the emitted energy go? Well, everywhere...including back into the coil itself. If a photon was emitted from turn 734, it has a moderate chance of striking turn 733 or 735. Per the theory, that photon might be becoming an electron. In time, the top of the coil would gain a bunch of extra charge...which would be more of more of a static variety. Which interestingly enough, is what they appear to do.

The Tesla secondary would require the AC tuning to produce the proper accel/decel required for the energy pump, but, any radiant energy that struck the coil would end up producing a DC/static potential in the coil. So the answer of "is a Tesla coil DC or AC?" is "both". Not saying that's the case, but it would fit well with observed behavior.


Again...just a theory. Don't flame me.

[grizli]

The numbers I had to work with from a Russian was the secondary is 1/4 wave length of the primary. The mutual coupling is weak (10%) which is what I would expect to see otherwise your tank is going to require a lot of power.

500Hz on the primary side divided by 10 on the secondary.

You can see the output coil appears to be about 1/4 the size on some of the coils and from a tap you see coming off the coil. While it is not in RF frequency range and certainly not "high frequency" it looks to me like two signals getting mixed in the load.

I saw a video of someone trying to look at it with an HP network analyzer and he could not explain what he was seeing nor had he seen anything like it before.

And finally, the tank resonance is going to be destroyed immediately without some chokes which is why I interpreted the patent that way. Feel free to contribute your own but if you think this circuit is explainable with classic EM and RF theory you may be disappointed. It's a self powered free energy device, not a ham radio or a network transformer.

I use the word choke instead of inductor. Semantics..

If primary is 500Hz, and secondary 50Hz, and primary wire length is 1/4 wavelength, than primary wire should be at last 10 kilometers long...

Frequency CANT be so low ...  you see on patent frequency adjuster... so it probably generates 50Hz from DC imput (rectified HF)

But does not Kapanadze seem to be opposite TC.... Lets say that in primary we have 10kV and we using spark gap pulse primary LC to oscilate at its own resonance frequency...   ... socindary is low number turn wire, but there is NO RESISITIVE load... secondary has also LC (the same or harmonic related resonance freq as primary) and we use secondary capacitor that is charged reactively. We do not have R in equasion nor we reduce Q factor with any load = we do not kill dipole..