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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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iceweller

Quote from: forest on February 09, 2011, 08:59:34 AM
My opinion

1. Cold electricity exists and is different then RF. It is ether pressure wave, no electrical field , but when acts on electric charge it is converted to electric field.Why I state this ? Because I think capacitor can store pure etheric field without electrons and discharging it disruptively generate etheric wave. This looks like sound wave, vibration.
2. Tesla found stationary waves. Stationary waves are completely different then standing waves !!!
Proof ? Make standing wave on rope and measure amplitude of wave at exact point . It DOESN'T CHANGE in TIME! NO ENERGY FROM STANDING WAVE!
Now look back to Tesla Colorado Notes at the chapter when Tesla describing his found. He comprehended that lightning generate stationary wave because his apparatus was registering magnetic field change (!) every exact period.Those waves were running!  in the same area back and forth.

3.  Now when standing waves are almost the same as stationary waves ? When observer is running along standing waves, it looks like those waves are stationary.

4. Now connect all above, add compression from Doppler effect.
5. Now if stationary waves occur then there are probability that we are running along the circuit with standing waves inside.

I think it is clear for everybody.
Looks like RESONANCE is the key (remember that resonance allow us to move electricity around like in superconductor - maybe it flies in a frame reference not related to our Earth rotation but rather related to ether).

Surely Kapanadze is creating stationary waves by using resonance and open coil to get energy either by radiant electricity aka cold current as described in point 1 or by using bifilar coil at 90 degrees to resonant circuit which generate magnetic field.Spark gap is for pulsing this field ?

Ok, I'll throw in my "2 cents" about "Cold" electricity. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion of course so don't be upset about mine.
  "Cold electricity" is only an apparent phenomenon, and probably is called so because the device is misunderstood. Tesla *never* mentioned any such thing, he also stated that there were no such thing as "2 kinds of electricity". What has been built by misinformers such as Vassilatos is pure fantasy, and belongs to lala land. If a device appears to generate 100KW output from 1KW input, this is not cold electricity, it simply means the 99KWatts are being sucked from an unknown source. The output will not be "cold", 100KWatts ARE 100KWatts and wherever there is "dissipation" there will be heat losses and conversion losses (not considering superconductivity, but even here...) - that's final for me.
   The stuff about HF currents and the skin effect has nothing to do with "cold electricity", there is enough established documentation on this. We don't have to go into "Relativistic" thinking here which really doesn't help, it's basic "electrotechnics".
   Tesla measured standing waves which were moving WITH a storm while in Colorado Springs. This means the waves were stationary with reference to the moving storm cluster as that was their origin. While the cluster moved away from his lab, his instruments measured peaks and dips in time as the nodes and peaks passed his sensitive detector. The presence of this phenomenon was a very important discovery for his system of transmission of energy and everything related to it (as he stated himself). For example, this meant he could generate a standing wave no only within the earth itself but also in the atmosphere to complete his project, but it also meant that the earth really behaved like a charged sphere and had plenty of electrical activity - again he said this himself.
   A standing wave is a stationary wave, this is just another terminology. You can have acoustic standing waves or Electromagnetic ones which can destroy your power transistor of your transmission equipment if they build up (RF line transmission). The Wardenclyffe project did not use RF / EM transmission, it used "conduction" through the propagation of electric charges through the earth (again, he said this himself).
   What is electricity? Read what Tesla said about this, it is very enlightening. It is a manifestation of the ether, not ether itself. Static electricity imposes a "stress" on the ether while dynamic is related to it's "motion". Varying Electrostatic fields also create standing waves. This is more akin to what a proper Tesla Coil does when resonating at 1/4 wave. Many still confuse what a TC output is Vs a normal AC HV output. A TC emits usually a biased negative output, similar to a pulsed DC output, emulating a pusling electrostatic generator. It is most probably this effect combined with an EM field and some element inside that can be used to capture and convert into electricity the external "ambient" source. Well, that's how I see it anyhow.

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stivep

Quote from: iceweller on February 09, 2011, 03:40:12 PM
Ok, I'll throw in my "2 cents" about "Cold" electricity. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion of course so don't be upset about mine.
  "Cold electricity" is only an apparent phenomenon, and probably is called so because the device is misunderstood. Tesla *never* mentioned any such thing, he also stated that there were no such thing as "2 kinds of electricity". What has been built by misinformers such as Vassilatos is pure fantasy, and belongs to lala land. If a device appears to generate 100KW output from 1KW input, this is not cold electricity, it simply means the 99KWatts are being sucked from an unknown source. The output will not be "cold", 100KWatts ARE 100KWatts and wherever there is "dissipation" there will be heat losses and conversion losses (not considering superconductivity, but even here...) - that's final for me.
   The stuff about HF currents and the skin effect has nothing to do with "cold electricity", there is enough established documentation on this. We don't have to go into "Relativistic" thinking here which really doesn't help, it's basic "electrotechnics".
   Tesla measured standing waves which were moving WITH a storm while in Colorado Springs. This means the waves were stationary with reference to the moving storm cluster as that was their origin. While the cluster moved away from his lab, his instruments measured peaks and dips in time as the nodes and peaks passed his sensitive detector. The presence of this phenomenon was a very important discovery for his system of transmission of energy and everything related to it (as he stated himself). For example, this meant he could generate a standing wave no only within the earth itself but also in the atmosphere to complete his project, but it also meant that the earth really behaved like a charged sphere and had plenty of electrical activity - again he said this himself.
   A standing wave is a stationary wave, this is just another terminology. You can have acoustic standing waves or Electromagnetic ones which can destroy your power transistor of your transmission equipment if they build up (RF line transmission). The Wardenclyffe project did not use RF / EM transmission, it used "conduction" through the propagation of electric charges through the earth (again, he said this himself).
   What is electricity? Read what Tesla said about this, it is very enlightening. It is a manifestation of the ether, not ether itself. Static electricity imposes a "stress" on the ether while dynamic is related to it's "motion". Varying Electrostatic fields also create standing waves. This is more akin to what a proper Tesla Coil does when resonating at 1/4 wave. Many still confuse what a TC output is Vs a normal AC HV output. A TC emits usually a biased negative output, similar to a pulsed DC output, emulating a pusling electrostatic generator. It is most probably this effect combined with an EM field and some element inside that can be used to capture and convert into electricity the external "ambient" source. Well, that's how I see it anyhow.

How do you relate your comments in regards to that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgKBDc8Wh8M&feature=related
Can you comment on that?  I will appreciate both of you gentleman to respond.That means FOREST AS WELL.
Wesely

LtBolo

Quote from: stivep on February 09, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
How do you relate your comments in regards to that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgKBDc8Wh8M&feature=related
Can you comment on that?  I will appreciate both of you gentleman to respond.That means FOREST AS WELL.
Wesely

It sure seems that standing wave and stationary wave are names for the same thing. It also seems that the video you linked is neither.

iceweller

Quote from: stivep on February 09, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
How do you relate your comments in regards to that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgKBDc8Wh8M&feature=related
Can you comment on that?  I will appreciate both of you gentleman to respond.That means FOREST AS WELL.
Wesely

That video, per se, doesn't reveal the standing wave concept well as it can also indicate a normal longitudinal wave, formed exactly as if you were to throw a stone in a calm pond.

This video shows the concept much better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEevfOU4Z8

As you can clearly see, the nodes DO NOT MOVE.

Additionally, a standing wave is also the result of interference of one or more (resonant) waves in EM transmission (Standing Wave Ratio) for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCZ1zFPvrIc

Also here, the nodes do not move, hence the term "standing" or "stationary".

To be more specific, a normal wave "propagates" (not the medium itself, but the energy such as potential difference for ex.) from the source or emitter to somewhere at a certain frequency or wavelength and usually dissipates. A standing wave "builds up" oscillation after oscillation as it is resonating, hence the energy pulses are in sync with the wave peaks and the only energy necessary to keep the amplitude constant is the energy to counteract the losses of the resonant system (if there are any).