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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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forest

wattsup

Maybe those transistor failed because returned signal was complex : a low frequency (50hz) with a hash of very sharp DC spikes (where the extra energy is) . They were switching low frequency with that hash ( like in TPU ? ) flawlessly except at the nodal point  in low frequency wave when they were toasted slowly.

LtBolo

Quote from: exnihiloest on February 12, 2011, 06:59:52 AM
Thus we can deal here with academic laws, so the charge speed is of no help for explaining extra energy.

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It is the key point, which will never be answered by a common reasoning about only conventional notions as voltage, speed, current, resonant coils, capacitors and so on.

I disagree. It is well established science that a decelerated electron yields a photon, the type and energy of the photon being dependent on the energy of the electron. Big energy, energetic photons. If an electron emits a photon when decelerating, it stands to reason that it absorbed one while accelerating. In the case of a heat pump, a mechanically induced phase change emits heat energy in excess of the mechanical energy. Meaning that for a certain amount of mechanical energy, I can pump a larger amount of heat energy. I would lay significant odds that the quantum energy states associated with accelerating and decelerating electrons behave similarly to the heat pump, and that for a certain amount of mechanical input (electrostatically accelerated electrons) we can pump a greater amount of quantum/photonic energy.

Although I agree that while standard electrical analysis will never answer the FE question, standard analysis will tell us what it takes to set up the conditions that would pump FE.

LtBolo

Quote from: quarktoo on February 12, 2011, 07:24:17 AM
Did you forget about the academic law E=MC2 ? Peer reviewed you know..

I think too much emphasis is placed on said 'law'. I completely agree that the dissociation of a given mass will yield energy in proportion to the speed of light squared. However...to suggest that the only source of energy is dissociated matter, may well be what has held back science for 70 years. It seems likely that science will eventually prove that we are sitting on a really, really big pile of joules, and that although matter can be dissociated to yield energy, it makes far better sense to go to the well and draw up a bucket...or a million.

forest

Crazy theory :

electric  standing wave = electron in quantum wave state
electric stationary wave = electron in quantum wave packet running as a particle in boundary of potential difference (power source)

To proof : someone should prepare experiment with mixing in time harmonics of electric standing wave as proposed in previously posted video and check for secondary beta emission (multipactor action)

Another theory : magnetic domain is area of running standing wave - electron(s) in quantum state
To get energy from it is impossible without stationary wave .
VTA,TPU,SR device


Sorry,I'm crazy  ;D

exnihiloest

Quote from: LtBolo on February 12, 2011, 11:55:46 AM
I disagree. It is well established science that a decelerated electron yields a photon, the type and energy of the photon being dependent on the energy of the electron. Big energy, energetic photons.
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All laws of physics related to fundamental and elementary phenomena (EM, mechanics, SR, GR) imply energy conservation in a closed system, because such a system can be described by a lagrangian or a hamiltonian. So if you refer only to these laws of physics to prove there is OU, you can be sure you made a mistake somewhere. Because these laws of physics are internally consistent, you cannot use them against them.

Now, you may note that I didn't mention thermodynamics. You talked about heat pumps, and I agree that it is an interesting point in our quest. Thermodynamics deals with statistical notions (for example: heat) and not with elementary effects such forces or fields. What is statistically true can be elementarily false. The second law is challenged even by conventional physicists. This law could be a weak point of academic science, but we have not yet, beyond any doubt, the proof of a break.
Accelerating and decelerating electrons are completely different things than heat transfers, they are elementary particules obeying elementary forces well identified and whose behavior is perfectly described by EM equations and mechanics, as proved by the enormous number of machines of all kind already built according to them by the men all over the word. Thus there is no hope of OU in common circuits as this from Kapanadze's, except of course if an external energy plays a role, like ZPF, nuclear reactions, hidden effect of the earth or others, needing to be taken into account in the conventional but still valid EM equations.