Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[exnihiloest]

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The key of course is how fast does charge really move in a standing wave...if at all?
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Only an electric field accelerates a charge whatever the way the field is obtained.
The charge speed v can be obtained from a current measurement:
I=dQ/dt=dQ/dx * dx/dt => I=v*dQ/dx
In English: the current is the product of the charge speed by the charge gradient along the path.

Q=C*U, therefore dQ/dx = d(C*U)/dx = C*dU/dx + U*dC/dx.
dC/dx is the capacity of the line per unit length. This is a known data (for example for coaxial cables, it is a constant stipulated by the makers).
dU/dx is the voltage change along the line due to the standing wave. It can be measured, or calculated if we know the impedance of the line.
Thus we can deal here with academic laws, so the charge speed is of no help for explaining extra energy.

In the end, the excess energy must come from somewhere

It is the key point, which will never be answered by a common reasoning about only conventional notions as voltage, speed, current, resonant coils, capacitors and so on.

[quarktoo]

Thus we can deal here with academic laws, so the charge speed is of no help for explaining extra energy.

Did you forget about the academic law E=MC2 ? Peer reviewed you know..

It is also worth mentioning that a magnetic field and a vacuum will also accelerate. Kapandzi used both magnetic and the high voltage spark gap to produce the electron bounce for acceleration.

LtBolo threw out a very good point about the size of the wire. Notice how the wire size gets larger with less resistance as the voltage moves toward the ground to the point where they are using huge litz wire to attach to ground. This can be seen in both the beach and the green box video and this is no accident. There is no way these people would spend the extra money for expensive welding cable ground wire if they didn't need to. They are building with scraps and painted cardboard.

Compression / decompression just like the new and improved chosen one, Lt. Bolo, carrier of the Prometheus torch, mentioned.

I'll admit it, I'm jealous...

[exnihiloest]

Did you forget about the academic law E=MC2 ? Peer reviewed you know..

I didn't. I discarded it for the moment due to absence of objective elements. Did you observed a mass that have disappeared or some matter that has transmuted, releasing energy?!
You are right, it is not impossible here as well as for all other FE devices. Nuclear reactions can always be invoked to justify extra energy while staying academic, but here, it is a baseless assertion.

It is also worth mentioning that a magnetic field and a vacuum will also accelerate. Kapandzi used both magnetic and the high voltage spark gap to produce the electron bounce for acceleration.

LtBolo threw out a very good point about the size of the wire. Notice how the wire size gets larger with less resistance as the voltage moves toward the ground to the point where they are using huge litz wire to attach to ground. This can be seen in both the beach and the green box video and this is no accident. There is no way these people would spend the extra money for expensive welding cable ground wire if they didn't need to. They are building with scraps and painted cardboard.

Compression / decompression just like the new and improved chosen one, Lt. Bolo, carrier of the Prometheus torch, mentioned.

I'll admit it, I'm jealous...

Large sized wires indicate strong currents and/or high frequencies to avoid the skin effect. If the size is not constant in order to match a not constant current along the line, due to nodes of a stationary wave, is an interesting hypothesis but it tells us nothing about extra energy.

[Ghost_Rider]

many accelerators in world and no overunity no free energy

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very smart if work

[wattsup]

I have experienced a lot of denials from the "closest country" (next to)  Georgia. But there are the people   i that "closest country" individually supporting  my action
after publishing my video I have got numerous hits to my site from all of the major oil countries  not excluding any single one. That happened almost instantly  at the same "time period".
Thank You "The People"

@stivep

Hope you don't mean Armenia. lol

May I simply commend you for your continued persistence in this TK saga. I have learned alot form this thread, even with the limited videos, talks, translations, etc.

@all

About Tesla - forget standing waves. He was always talking about "damped" waves (DW) versus "undamped" waves (UDW). According to Tesla a device using UDW will always waste energy and a device using DW will always conserve energy while doing work. He proved this with his Tesla Ozone Patent. Funny thing. He uses a make/break between a coil of very high inductance (fan motor coil) and a capacitor of not too high uF to produce both a capacitor discharge on connect and an inductive discharge on disconnect. At ON one thing, at OFF another thing. Two for the price on one. So................... one man recently who knows Tariel locally said there was a second spark gap inside a coil, which we call a quenched spark gap. Could that be a replacement for the make-break in the Tesla Ozone Patent (TOP). Or could it be what our friend saw as a second spark gap was a rotary or relay contact that will definitely be creating sparking and hence his reference to a spark gap. So what did the Ozone Patent do. It then produced sparks off the working transformer to produce ozone gas.

Then you have TK pointing to a Teslas Pancake coil probably saying "hey, this coil can have much more capacitance then you think". Hmmmm. The TOP requires a good capacitor of not to high capacitance but it has to handle some high voltage because it is in series with the working transformer. So what if TK found a way to replace the capacitor with a Tesla Pancake Coil (TPC). IN my TOC trials, I have blow a few capacitors.

Then on the Green Box (GB) we have these two transistors that our friend said have blown and have stalled further development due to waiting for replacements. I can tell you that is he was using the transistors is a damped wave set-up, one small error in frequency adjustment and they are toast. I have burned more of them during such tests then with anything else. So those transistors, what are they really doing. We know they get very hot otherwise TK would have left only the heat sinks without the fan.

If the TOC method was the base, then the GB will want to send back tremendous energy returns to the inverter (which is the GB feed source) that will not be able to handle it. So maybe those transistors are there to funnel the GB return back into the output side, adding to the output and giving enough out now that can be returned via the black box.

Ultimately, we will never really know and we can spend more and more months on this but if TK does not come forward at some time or another, all this maybe-ing will be just that. A mountain of clues and all we can do is try to learn something from exploring new ideas based on functional theories.

The guys that quickly built their TK devices just used standard methods in a linear manner to light up some bulbs. They did not take the time to really study the device and all the potential variables involved and hence their results were derived as expected from standard methods with major losses.

The only device that really stood out is the SR device. SR made his device using 360 degree thinking where every component is interrelated where the frond end is intimately linked to the back end. The needs of the front end were designed with the ability of the back end for mutual compatibility in such energy transfer or looping.

All very interesting and very encouraging to move forward.

wattsup

PS: Next I will post something to @stefan on this thread.