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[grizli]

FRF should be empirically measured with:
- a short excitation pulse and ringing with an oscilloscope, or
- a sweeped signal generator and a spectrum analyzer or tracking filter with a voltmeter as in VNA, or
- a white noise generator and spectrum analyzer just like the inventors are proposing. 

As such the FRF would constitute the master frequency of the whole system from which all other frequencies are derived.  This would make the FRF the most important parameter of the device.

You are well educated, are you maybe teacher or something?

I plean tu measure that when I assemble some basic frequency circuit cmos 555 hehe..

But you guys NEGLECT physical , or mechanical oscilation in ferrite itself or SOUND WAVE
sound wave can magnetize ferrite aslo!!

So it may not be ferromagnetic effect, it may be combination of may effects : inductance L that gives LC my be altered in time by sound wave and get something very complex that at the end oscillate at 1.6 mhz (or what ever)
Sound wave can also travel and all direction can produce compression depression, torsion etc etc....


Again 50 Hz is so slow,,, ferrite core impedance at 50 hz is VERY LOW, more like short circuit... 50 hz if connected in LC manner (capacitor) should have very low voltage..

50 hz easily makes core SATURATE, , I wonder if thats effect here?

[grizli]

Need one concrete answer

http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/2_pirmine_iskociojimas_pjuklas__50_hercu.jpg

How many vol is peak to peak for SINE 50 hz ? how many volt is peak to peak for ramp 380 khz

One probe is X10 other is X1 , one scale is 20/div, other is 1/div

Easy to get mistake here !!!

Also do you drive core directly with signal generator , seems unlikely . But, if you dont I would like to know EXACT voltage peak to peak for all signal connected to the core measured directly at the core

[stivep]

 Please do not use metal clips when you assemble two halves of ferrite core use rubber band instead
Metal clip will close magnetic flux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER DO IT

Wesley

[bolt]

You are well educated, are you maybe teacher or something?

I plean tu measure that when I assemble some basic frequency circuit cmos 555 hehe..

But you guys NEGLECT physical , or mechanical oscilation in ferrite itself or SOUND WAVE
sound wave can magnetize ferrite aslo!!

So it may not be ferromagnetic effect, it may be combination of may effects : inductance L that gives LC my be altered in time by sound wave and get something very complex that at the end oscillate at 1.6 mhz (or what ever)
Sound wave can also travel and all direction can produce compression depression, torsion etc etc....


Again 50 Hz is so slow,,, ferrite core impedance at 50 hz is VERY LOW, more like short circuit... 50 hz if connected in LC manner (capacitor) should have very low voltage..

50 hz easily makes core SATURATE, , I wonder if thats effect here?

Its not sound or pressure waves its Ferroresonance.

"Ferroresonance or nonlinear resonance is a complex electrical phenomenon. It can cause overvoltages and overcurrents in an electrical power system"   Nice when created intentionally:)

50hz is arbitrary   amount just because its useful to provide an AC o/p which can be used by conventional transformers. The EXACT frequency is NOT important can be 43Hz or 69Hz or anywhere close.

In the TPU the modulation frequency  is 5KHz. The carrier will be several Mhz.

It IS however vital to have modulation frequency of the NMR carrier.  Care should be taken not to over modulate but get as close to 100% AM  as possible.  Overmodulation will suppress the carrier. Under modulation will reduce level of magnetic flux field variation on the bifilar and thus directly effect the output power.

A standard signal generator is NOT enough power to run the coils. You need at least 10 watt drivers. eg 10 volts at 1 amp.

PS the metal wire stuff is called a BRAID and NOT a Bright.

[verpies]

But you guys NEGLECT physical , or mechanical oscilation in ferrite itself or SOUND WAVE
sound wave can magnetize ferrite aslo!!

So it may not be ferromagnetic effect, it may be combination of may effects : inductance L that gives LC my be altered in time by sound wave and get something very complex that at the end oscillate at 1.6 mhz (or what ever)
Sound wave can also travel and all direction can produce compression depression, torsion etc etc....

50 hz easily makes core SATURATE, , I wonder if thats effect here?

You are right, we are neglecting a lot of effects, such as:
- Magnetostriction
- Magnetoresistance
- Magnetocalloric effect
- Kerr effect
- BH curve nonlinearites
- Magnetic permeability modulation by the H field
- Magnetic permeability modulation by the E field
- Magnetic circuit configuration
- Electron Spin Resonance
- Nuclear Magnetic Resonance
- Temperature effects
- Magnetic circuit configuration (air gaps)
... and probably several others, see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8p0ZskV7LI

However, I am neglecting most of the above on purpose because I am concentrating on getting sufficient answers regarding the engineering variables such as:
- the ferrite core properties
- properties of primary and secondary windings
- properties of the 1 turn Braid winding/HV electrodes/transmission line.
- waveforms (shape, frequency, phase, amplitude)

...and most importantly the causal relationships between the waveforms.
In other words: Which waveform is derived from which and what are the frequency, phase, amplitude relationships between them.

For example, after analyzing the following statements:

Lower frequency is driving frequency (47Hz after slight tuning in our experiment).

The lowest frequency has strongest signal so higher frequencies go inside of that signal, not otherwise: http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/2_pirmine_iskociojimas_pjuklas__50_hercu.jpg

and correcting for language barriers, I can conclude that the inventor simply meant that:
LF.amplitude > HF.amplitude

From other statements I can conclude that.
HF.f >> LF.f
HF.f/LF.f = a natural number (7600)

and

BRF.f > HF.f
BRF.f/HF.f = a natural number

The Ferrite Resonant Frequency (FRF) is some kind of fundamental "echo" from the very material itself, and the Braid Resonant frequency (BRF) most likely is a subharmonic of FRF.

At this point, I don't care if the FRF comes from magnetostriction, E-field modulation of magnetic permeability of the ferrite (see the IEEE article by Konrad and Brudny) or the transmission line theory. 
I just want to know how FRF can be determined/measured and related to the other waveforms in the system.

I am purposely avoiding the analysis of the effects here, in order not to distract myself from the engineering variables.

I will delve into the theory of operation and all the effects once all of the engineering variables are known for replication