Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[grizli]

@grizli

Good job.
This clearly is a negative result.  Negative results are very worthwhile, too. Scientific method requires falsifiability.

A low resistance, low inductance, 15turn coil driven by 50hz AC weak signal generator should develop negligible voltage across it according to conventional theory...and that's exactly what happens for you.

However, the inventors clearly demonstrate appreciable 50Hz amplitude in their video.
Unfortunately they do not show how the signal generators are connected and where the oscilloscope is hooked up.  It looks like they are measuring a LCR circuit with a high L/R constant (Tau)

The contrast is stark.

There is other possiblity : Bad measuring

I used 4046 signal generator, and no pro equipment like stivep
Also i dont have noise generator, I mannualy tune frequecy and watch  output

What RLC constant ? of what ? there is no C to make 50 hz Lc osccillate
that would be huge C
hmm

[grizli]

Grizli,

for the signals from my scope, see my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4MDtrAh9Ag

I use a function generator, see the video.

The other coils on my ferrite resonate at:
L1 low   50 Hz  / 15 turns / 120 uH coil resonates at 1.55 Mhz
L1 high 382 Khz / 50 turns /  1 mH  coil resonates at 1.265 Mhz (so need to add capacitance (about 175 pF) to go to 382 Khz).
L2 output 150 turn bifilar / 13 mH  coil resonates at 105 Khz which is to low, so need to remove some turns to get to 382 Khz.

So the measured/seen 5.7 Mhz signal on the copperstrip MUST be from this strip / ferrite

I will try this 50 Hz input transformer/lamp thingy tonight.

Regards Itsu

Strip can self ressonate at 5,7 Mhz ?

I got similar results 1,7 Mhz for 51 turn core
and about 200 khz for bifilar

[itsu]

Grizli,

Strip can self resonate at 5,7 Mhz ?

I doubt it, a strip of this length will/should resonate in the high hundreds Mhz or even in the Ghz range.

Itsu

[grizli]

Grizli,

I doubt it, a strip of this length will/should resonate in the high hundreds Mhz or even in the Ghz range.

Itsu

there is ferrite inside

also there is capacitive cupling betwwen signal generator coil and strip

how you got so clean sine at the strip? I get sine + 25 mhz bursts

[verpies]

What RLC constant ? of what ? there is no C to make 50 hz Lc oscillate.
That would be huge C

Of course there isn't any large C, only some picofarad inter-winding capacitance.
Together with the inductance of the coil the capacitance forms a parallel LC circuit, and with the wire resistance and any externally added resistances, any real coil becomes an RLC circuit.

The impedance of this RLC circuit is dependent the R, L, C which are the constants and variable frequency f.

Because the capacitance is so small then in order for the impedance (and thus the voltage across the coil) to be large, the inductance needs to be large, too.
Inductance is proportional to the permeability of the core, so my guess is that the HF waveforms somehow "soften" the ferrite and significantly increase its permeability.

Now, you can't measure much because your impedance is very low (essentially a short circuit).

The impedance of the device (RLC circuit) can be calculated by applying a sinusoidal voltage to the device in series with a resistor, and measuring the voltage across the resistor and across the device. Performing this measurement by sweeping the frequencies of the applied signal provides the impedance phase and magnitude.