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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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verpies

Quote from: wattsup on November 19, 2011, 10:01:20 AM
...one has to consider why the primary is producing flyback in the first place. I think the flyback is due to the simple fact that the primary is being pulsed only from one side of the primary coil.

No, the primary is producing a high voltage spike because the driving circuit is trying to interrupt the current flow in the primary winding.

This primary winding is an inductor and inductors "don't like" to have their current interrupted (or even changed).  They will respond violently to any such attempt by increasing voltage to such an amount that the current remains unchanged
If that means several kilo Volts that will break down the open circuit and keep the current going in the same direction (e.g. by creating a spark in an air gap between the points of an opening switch) ...than so be it.  Alternatively, the current can keep flowing in another winding.

Conversely, if the current in an ideal inductor (coil/winding) is not interrupted, then it will circulate in such inductor forever. 
Of course real inductors have resistance, so current will not circulate forever because eventually the resistance will convert it all to heat.

So the answer to all inductive flyback spike problems is: "Do not open all the windings suddenly". At least one of them must conduct current.

forest

Quote from: LtBolo on November 19, 2011, 02:59:40 PM
If a ferrite had high permittivity and high resistivity, it stands to reason that an applied electric field would force a spin alignment. If the material had high permittivity but low resistivity, I'm thinking free electrons would be pulled from of the atoms, and there would be no resulting spin alignment. If the material was low permittivity, there would be no dielectric behavior at all.

With the spin aligned in support of a magnetic field in a high permeability material, it stands to reason that it would become magnetic relative to the alignment. Using an electric field to spontaneously magnetize and demagnetize a material seems like a pretty important trick. An interesting aside: if the electric field was applied in a single ended fashion, the material might begin to develop a magnetic memory and would refuse to demagnetize completely. If the device were working by magnetizing and demagnetizing via an electric field, it would become less effective the more residual magnetization increased, and would eventually need to be degaussed to improve effectiveness. I think they mentioned that behavior. That should be pretty easy to prevent if the applied field was bipolar.

YES.... ;-)

itsu


Here the data on my FG's:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ0lts5paDg

All 100 Khz,  probe 1x

Philips FG:

10 Ohm  Sine   4.8  V
        Square 5.04 V

100 Ohm Sine   20.4 V
        Square 20.8 V

China made FG:

10 Ohm  Sine   1.76 V
        Square 1.68 V 

100 Ohm Sine   6.8  V
        Square 6.96 V


Regards Itsu

wattsup

@itsu

Using my three FGs, I can see that pulsing the T1 is more or less useless at the levels we are doing right up to 50MHz.

The best best best mix I have found so far is remarkably pulsing square waves on 15T and 50T at 150kHz range each. This gave me an output of 260 vdc off the bifilared 150T. OK, this is voltage only. Of course, the amps are minimal.

The only reaction on the 1T is at 20.6MHz where the waveform has a ripple in it but there is no increase in the output. So for me this really means the 1T effect will remain unknown until it is pulsed at HV.

In the image below, my scope is set to 5v, 2uS and probe at 10x. The volt meter is set to 600vdc. The two top FGs are at 150kHz. The 15T is getting 40%, the 50T is getting 50%. I am not pulsing the 1T. Maybe try to see it for yourself as well, just to see if we can get two same results or close enough.

Oh, the two LEDs are on yoke coils I removed when removing the ferrite and just put an LED on each. I use these to see the outer energy and frequency effects. Really niffty. Also, those two little white thingies to the right of the front LED are HV diodes. I found a guy that had four of them in a back drawer of his EE shop. I had to insist that he look around and was surprised himself to have them. You never know if you do not ask. I gave him 20$ for four diodes.

@verpies

Thanks for your comments on the circuit. I will see.

About the flyback flyback and HV out, well, I should not have posted what I did because it will always incite some controversy that may not be good on the thread right now and will not effect the outcome of our goal. Let's just leave it at that with thanks.

wattsup

verpies

Quote from: itsu on November 19, 2011, 04:35:01 PM
Here the data on my FG's:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ0lts5paDg

Your frequency generators are much stronger than Wattsup's (your Phillips SG is much stronger than the Chinese one). 
There is almost no waveform distortion at 10ohm load on both of them.

In hindsight I regret not asking you for a 1ohm load test, which is much closer to the actual winding resistance in the STAAAR device.