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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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jbignes5

Quote from: znel on December 22, 2011, 06:27:31 PM
Interesting sites... I've done similar experiments as shown in the Johnb vid, as long as your working with low currents it is quite controllable.   I actually thought I had it operating the way I wanted it several times - each test rig using lower currents - as soon as you went above 500 amps it would start misfiring.   As long as it's stable it's painless - when it's not stable, well, it damn well hurts.   

I'm going to look around for some old commercially made quenched gaps to see the differences in what I'm doing, also curious as to the amount of power they might be able to handle.   If you run into anything let me know....


Yeah the problem is that he is using only half of the magnet to quench the gap.


I really hate putting up links if you didn't know lol. I'd rather do it myself but why waste the energy redoing a perfect video. I don't know exactly how Tesla did it but he was talking about using millions of horsepower but he did the initiator spark gap lower in frequency and stepped it up after that. This is the key. Do the gap where you can with what you can then step up the spark into a transformer. This is the whole reason he used oil as a dielectric in the transformer. It was capable of keeping the pulse where it belonged in the wire. It seems to me he always filled a cap then used that to dump to the load. The faster the pulses the faster he could dump the cap into the load. The cap should always be dumped into a stepdown transformer so that it draws in the necessary magnetic lines to support the secondary's system.


Let me be clear. When the pulse is unobstructed and fired into a primary there is little in the way for leakage and a higher pulling in of the environments magnetic lines that are all around us. The transformer is merely a device that changes one form of energy to another. From high voltage to low voltage with a corresponding change in the current.


It makes me wonder seeing that other patent by Tesla that we have the spiral coil on the outside instead of the inside where Tesla said there would be an amplification. I'm thinking many flat coils could be used and the long antennas from the flat coils could be tied together and adding to the output in a parallel fashion. This would lower the resistance and increase the output. If you look at the patent he shows that one could be the sender and one could be the receiver. But both are identical??? Or are they.

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,012-increasing-electrical-oscillations

Look at the left and right diagrams. The coils go in opposite directions. If you use the magnifier part of the page it shows the other coil faintly in dotted lines. Aha

znel

Quote from: jbignes5 on December 22, 2011, 09:03:36 PM

Yeah the problem is that he is using only half of the magnet to quench the gap.


I really hate putting up links if you didn't know lol. I'd rather do it myself but why waste the energy redoing a perfect video. I don't know exactly how Tesla did it but he was talking about using millions of horsepower but he did the initiator spark gap lower in frequency and stepped it up after that. This is the key. Do the gap where you can with what you can then step up the spark into a transformer. This is the whole reason he used oil as a dielectric in the transformer. It was capable of keeping the pulse where it belonged in the wire. It seems to me he always filled a cap then used that to dump to the load. The faster the pulses the faster he could dump the cap into the load. The cap should always be dumped into a stepdown transformer so that it draws in the necessary magnetic lines to support the secondary's system.


Let me be clear. When the pulse is unobstructed and fired into a primary there is little in the way for leakage and a higher pulling in of the environments magnetic lines that are all around us. The transformer is merely a device that changes one form of energy to another. From high voltage to low voltage with a corresponding change in the current.


It makes me wonder seeing that other patent by Tesla that we have the spiral coil on the outside instead of the inside where Tesla said there would be an amplification. I'm thinking many flat coils could be used and the long antennas from the flat coils could be tied together and adding to the output in a parallel fashion. This would lower the resistance and increase the output. If you look at the patent he shows that one could be the sender and one could be the receiver. But both are identical??? Or are they.

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,012-increasing-electrical-oscillations

Look at the left and right diagrams. The coils go in opposite directions. If you use the magnifier part of the page it shows the other coil faintly in dotted lines. Aha

I believe most if not all of tesla's units use the CW CCW primary/secondary.   CW CW would alter polarity of the secondary.   An easy test is to have a moveable primary where you can move it from one end to the other. 

By adding lots of conversions you also introduce more losses.   When we start with a low voltage and boost it to peak output we also need to reduce it to get an output that is useable.   Why not use a system where input and output voltages are equal.   No conversions within the main oscillator, then use a receiver to extract energy in a useable form thus only use the energy at the point it is to be wasted through a circuit.   If you adjust the receiver to be off by 60hz you introduce a beat that you can use to drive common devices at the lower voltage.   The output of a beat frequency is the addition of the two waves crossing which gives you a little boost as well.   On my youtube channel I show a video of an LED connected through an AV plug then connected to an antenna line that picks up the hum of a 60hz line, I introduce a 59 hz signal from a FG at 1/2 volt.   The LED is a 3.7 volt ultra bright and it shows the beat frequency and the intensity of change as the waves pass each other.   The output is a 1hz signal returned with enough intensity to power the LED.

I've never tried putting the primary in the center of the coil but I've seen it done - it does work.   I'm not sure I see a difference as the inside should have the same or similar field as the outside in close proximity.

Interesting stuff indeed....

Magluvin

Quote from: scratchrobot on December 22, 2011, 08:12:09 PM
Has anyone ever tried or has more info to get energy from air with a tesla coil like this ?
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Ch11/Fig1.gif

Regards,
Scratchrobot

Thats interesting..  Like in television picture tube, the electromagnet directs(deflects) electron beams.
As the ozone rises up through the tube, the ozone allows the electromagnets to transfer electrons from the + plate to the - plate?  :o Why electro magnets?  :o ;D

Hmm, get rid of the electromagnets, and wind a long coil on the tube, like a Tcoil, and just have the positive electrode inside the tube in the middle, and the negative near the top(ozone output). If the ozone is an unusual carrier of electrons, then having the ozone pass by the positive electrode first, so electrons can catch the ozone bus to negativille.  ;) And the coil, properly polarized, should direct the electrons from the pos plate to the neg plate.

Hopefully I got that right. ;]


Thanks for that.

Mags

Magluvin

Something to think about.  ;]

In a cathode ray tube, the filament in the rear of the tube produces a cloud of electrons when heated. Then a negative charge is applied to the cathode, and a positive charge to the anode, on or towards the fron of the tube.

So, the deflection coils. Do the coils on the top an bottom cause the beam to go up or down? The deflection coils on the side cause left and right beam deflection?

But in a conductor, any conductor, the electrons dont move the same. Not toward or away from the magnet, like in the CRT. Otherwise, we could just run a wire through the center of a ring magnet and it would produce never ending current.  ;]

So this idea of producing a medium(ozone), that we can use as a conductor, but without the restrictions of the effect of conductive metals as the carrier.

Is this possible?  Ozone in the tube, 2 conductive plates across from each other, magnets on either sides of the plates, the magnets push electrons off of one plate and are attracted to the other plate because the magnet on the other side of that plate is pulling the electrons.

Could it be possible that the ozone makes up for not having a heated electron cloud, allowing for such a process as shown in the picture?

Mags

baroutologos

Quote from: scratchrobot on December 22, 2011, 08:12:09 PM
Has anyone ever tried or has more info to get energy from air with a tesla coil like this ?
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Ch11/Fig1.gif

Regards,
Scratchrobot


I was interested from time to time in doing that experiment series but always but it aside in pursue of others. I am very confident that none documented experiment from an tinkerer's point of view has been done, or published at least. Perhaps its time to play with HV HF discharges, magnetic fields and all the happy stuff? :)


ps: some food for thought http://www.springerlink.com/content/v714166678558163/