Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[nightwind]

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[aether22]

I just realized how a radio receives so much more energy by being tuned.



The current circulating in the tank at it's resonant frequency in an ideal circuit requires no energy to maintain.


The build up of current in the tank circuit means that if any voltage is added from an incoming wave it adds more energy.


So if you have a circulating current of 1 micro amp and you add 45mv of potential then you have added some very very very tiny portion of energy to the tank circuit.
However if the tank circuit has a high, a super high Q and it has built up to a current of 20,000 amps then 45mv means you gain 900w.


The voltage induced in the tank circuit hasn't changed, what has change is the current that voltages has been added to.


So how come a feeble incoming emf can create such impossibly high currents (in my thought experiment anyway)?


Why doesn't the inductor cancel it as happens in a transformer where the secondary can't create a stronger field than the primary?


Answer: the capacitor keeps the phase from being at 180 degrees so it never cancels the incoming EMF.


This stuff has bugged me for ages, this might be common knowledge to some, but I've just grokked it.


So what does this tell us about free energy?


It verifies that my post back a few weeks ago was correct, having large currents circulate in a tank circuit does increase the energy received!
And that a capacitor can keep the phase of current through an inductor from being too near to 180 degrees to the incoming wave.


So to increase energy you must establish large circulating currents (which increases the energy induced without increasing the EMF) and employ more capacitance than impedance in the circuit.


This explains something I had read once, someone who made a winning crystal radio was saying that you are better off with a big capacitor and a small inductor, only they were not sure why it worked.

[znel]

I just realized how a radio receives so much more energy by being tuned.



The current circulating in the tank at it's resonant frequency in an ideal circuit requires no energy to maintain.


The build up of current in the tank circuit means that if any voltage is added from an incoming wave it adds more energy.


So if you have a circulating current of 1 micro amp and you add 45mv of potential then you have added some very very very tiny portion of energy to the tank circuit.
However if the tank circuit has a high, a super high Q and it has built up to a current of 20,000 amps then 45mv means you gain 900w.


The voltage induced in the tank circuit hasn't changed, what has change is the current that voltages has been added to.


So how come a feeble incoming emf can create such impossibly high currents (in my thought experiment anyway)?


Why doesn't the inductor cancel it as happens in a transformer where the secondary can't create a stronger field than the primary?


Answer: the capacitor keeps the phase from being at 180 degrees so it never cancels the incoming EMF.


This stuff has bugged me for ages, this might be common knowledge to some, but I've just grokked it.


So what does this tell us about free energy?


It verifies that my post back a few weeks ago was correct, having large currents circulate in a tank circuit does increase the energy received!
And that a capacitor can keep the phase of current through an inductor from being too near to 180 degrees to the incoming wave.


So to increase energy you must establish large circulating currents (which increases the energy induced without increasing the EMF) and employ more capacitance than impedance in the circuit.


This explains something I had read once, someone who made a winning crystal radio was saying that you are better off with a big capacitor and a small inductor, only they were not sure why it worked.

It's interesting how a Tank circuit operates... theoretically once brought to saturation, there is no need for input other than that of replacing losses.   It becomes an impedance of infinite resistance not allowing any current to flow into the circuit at resonance.  Unfortunately, in the real world.... let's say you did achieve a 20k amp circulating in the tank and you used a 10ft section of "0000" cable as your primary inductor.   That inductor would have a resistance of .00049 ohms with 20,000 amps circulating... ohms law predicts a loss of 196,000 watts due to resistance.   Of course if you had achieved a 20k amp circulation with 15,000 volts then the loss would be small in comparison. 

A very cold environment or a super conductor might be the only way to achieve such results.   Quite a magnificent achievement.   I've read tesla said he did this with a cold coil (liquid air) and it stayed in oscillation, once started, for 3 years.   

playhookey.com is a good place to learn about the LC circuits - very well explained. 

[John M]

It's interesting how a Tank circuit operates... theoretically once brought to saturation, there is no need for input other than that of replacing losses.   It becomes an impedance of infinite resistance not allowing any current to flow into the circuit at resonance.  Unfortunately, in the real world.... let's say you did achieve a 20k amp circulating in the tank and you used a 10ft section of "0000" cable as your primary inductor.   That inductor would have a resistance of .00049 ohms with 20,000 amps circulating... ohms law predicts a loss of 196,000 watts due to resistance.   Of course if you had achieved a 20k amp circulation with 15,000 volts then the loss would be small in comparison. 

A very cold environment or a super conductor might be the only way to achieve such results.   Quite a magnificent achievement.   I've read Tesla said he did this with a cold coil (liquid air) and it stayed in oscillation, once started, for 3 years.   

playhookey.com is a good place to learn about the LC circuits - very well explained.

"Of course if you had achieved a 20k amp circulation with 15,000 volts then the loss would be small in comparison."  Yes and this is apparently how you can achieve overunity. The High voltage couples with the aether to gain more energy.

John

[AbbaRue]

You know, when I think of NMR and how difficult it is to extract power from it without destroying the resonance,
I find it a brilliant idea to use the NMR material to make a heating coil, and just let it resonate while producing heat.
Producing heat is the natural thing for it to do.
So could one make a heating coil out of iron wire and get it resonating at it's NMR frequency and allow it to heat your home?

This type of concept was opened up to me by the Ghazanfar Ali Generator
http://www.overunity.com/11961/ghazanfar-ali-generator-utlilizing-trapped-energy/msg311552/#msg311552
Before I read his idea I never thought of doing such a thing, I was always looking for ways to extract that energy,
and use it in an external device.  But could never get past the problem of loosing resonance.