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[John M]

How TK device might work based on theory.
Lets call it


  Guthia- Wesley  Theory.




The reason for it is that Guthia from Georgia who is not associated with TK and he never seen him although both  are from Tbilisi have had conversation with me for quite few hours.
He was trying to explain his thoughts to others and nobody would understand him.


At first it will look like I'm giving you complete nonsense.
for that I need you to think as if the nonsense is not nonsense.

1.Does surface of the earth have sine waves and/or  is able to carry on electrical waves?
do not confuse  this question with  question  #2



2. Does the earth responds to waveform?
Well of course it does.
Lets think for the moment that I was sometime  ago say (10 or more years) a Principal Investigator at number of scientific , government sponsored programs NASA Darpa
DoD ....and president of scientific entity located in WTC1... (for these who do not know.. go to Dr Judy Wood and John H ..)
We have been dealing with waves.
Piezoelectric  foil placed on the surface of the earth  was reading mechanical  vibrations coming from  the earth.
The basic principal for this passive reading was to measure speed of  waves coming  from the ground up to our sensor.


Than signal from foil was send to AD converter  than to DOS the signals at  certain spectrum have been send to Fourier analyses and than to photo-styler or any graphic program to get a picture -  cut of ,of the ground to depth  about 2km.  The picture represented all of the tiny  detail because  of
ever existing vibrations created by earth rotation, moon rotation, volcanic and seismic activity, oceans and rivers flow, man kind activity all of the borders between layers ..gravel, clay,rock  in extremely good resolution .


For purpose of FE...one of  conclusions might be friction that creates electric charge between layers?
and we drop to it:
- magnetic field of the earth and colliding magnetic fluxes from solar bodies, cosmic rays...
-friction of the air and electric charge...   
- the differentiation between to environments   air and earth..
-dielectric constant of layers and/or borders of the layers.. ( earth)
all of nonsense  is here to think about it...

short listing of FE causing factors:
-magnetic field
-electric field
- electrostatics charge
- mechanical  vibration
- energy conversion by mechanisms of nature
-seismic activity
-friction


Should I ask the question
3.If power company  delivers electric  charge at frequency 50Hz than we have sinus at wire only or we have sinus at ground as well.
4. If man walking on  the ground when HV wires are  on the ground after storm than
the resistance or better say impedance of his body between legs  is caring on  DC or 50Hz AC?
- he is far from wires
-the step voltage is there
-electrical conductivity of his body is easier  for the current to flow
-and power company DID NOT delivered DC but AC 50Hz.


5. If two conductors in the circuit have AC 50Hz  when we dealing with floating ground (= no ground)


than when we replace one of conductors with ground we should have  the same properties in that "conductor" as well ... obeying superposition rules

I have had discussion with John my friend he said that DC  caused death as well  only at voltage 600V 600A when man is walking on broken line.
Yes..
But he was dealing with 2m distance and DC is decreasing with distance while power companies send AC over hundreds of miles...
The man resistance ( NOT IMPEDANCE) was easier path between legs than ground.
The man was never  dealing with  zero voltage and maximum current.
So  fellows what is causing tungsten ( volfram) in light bulb to  dissipate energy  into  heat?
Current or voltage?


Could we say that by the means of manipulating  ZERO POINT OF VOLTAGE
TK was able to achieve maximum current and no voltage?

how did he do it?
say by  using standing wave properties.

6.So why than the voltage delivered to TK device was  zero after initial impulse and current was  zero.?

At 2004  presentation TK did not have (samozapitka) self looping as of yet . Or he was not presenting it.
His device was similar to Doland Smith device using energy source.
When he pulled  out the plug the device stop to give any response there was no longer light.
but he had a ground wire connected....

Example:
Say I do not have respect to one of you but I have respect to my own wife.
7.Can than anyone measure amount of disrespect to that particular individual
by only knowing me and my wife?
NO you can not connect the V meter between two point if one of the points does not have relation to the point of reference.
You take clamp meter  the current is in the conductor ,the voltage is not but  power equals  ZERO as V is zero than  meter can not show current as well.
Got it?

Yes but  TK device was connected with one wire only ... the ground.....
I agree..

There is no such thing as one wire powering structure only... NOT by any means!!
The circuit must be closed for the current to flow in AC CIRCUITS.

So what about Abramienko Fork..

Circuit will be always closed loop by means of electromagnetic or electrostatic  coupling.
Yes we are delivering voltage to  one wire only in Abramienko Fork but we dealing with reverse signal path   upon that delivery due to  polarity of diodes.
The circuit closes due to electrostatic mechanism.
Ground=earth is there  or relation  of capacitive coupling between  two is there always.

7.So one say will Abramienko  Fork work in  altitude of 10Km?
Yes it will work.


The difference between ionospheric and ground potential= 45000V
anybody placed in between is under relation into ground  and/or  ionosphere.
When  we increase capacitance  of the body we will create stronger relation .


8.So why the birds do not die on HV lines?
Because the birds are on the same potential with no direct relation (-response) to points of reference.


9. So how to measure the voltage between two points heaving HV potential ( ground and HV wire) not connecting two points?
We can use electrostatic V-meter.
TK never used electrostatic V meter. And if he did It wil show voltage but we know without any doubts that HV is there ... only what we do not know is points of relation between points 
As we may simply measure between points of known not points of unknown.
Electrostatic charge does not have frequency..It does have polarity and speed of change of polarity.
Electrostatic charge has vector of direction.

Electrostatic charge speed of change is not related to sinusoidal wave but is caused by it.
It is mostly acting as a switch. You can not have  3/4 of polarity positive and 1/4 negative

At the certain point polarity changes rapidly with the speed of light  or speed of electron traveling in given medium.


Electrostatic charge can not have any % of positive and negative potential at one given point of wire due to relation  of that point in wire to ground
it is one or the opposite one at given point in time




Still working on it, do not respond to  this text as of yet...


Wesley


PS: I just have posted rev#4 of chart #1 redone

"Could we say that by the means of manipulating ZERO POINT OF VOLTAGE
TK was able to achieve maximum current and no voltage?"
This condition occurs at resonance, when you can have maximum voltage and no current or have maximum current and no voltage.
I did an experiment where I had two identical coils The primary was connected to a signal generator through a 3 volt bulb in series. The secondary was connected to a 3 volt bulb in series. Both coils were coupled together through a ferrite rod.
When I tuned the signal generator the bulb on the primary remained lit until I hit the resonant frequency and then went out. The bulb on the secondary remained out until the resonant frequency was hit and lit to almost the same brightness as the bulb on the primary had been. When the primary was in resonance there was very little current flowing from the signal generator because of the primaries high impedance state. Likewise the secondary was also in a high impedance state but had maximum current flowing through the bulb in a resonant condition and the bulb lit.
For those who are skeptical, just try it. You also can't say it was an impedance transformation to match the signal generator to the load since the generator had a 50 ohm output and the coils impedance at the resonant frequency was something like 500 ohms.
I still think the way to overunity is through high voltage and resonant conditions. I just think we have to know what conditions to create and build to create it.
John

[bboj]

How TK device might work based on theory.
Lets call it








  Guthia- Wesley  Theory.




The reason for it is that Guthia from Georgia who is not associated with TK and he never seen him although both  are from Tbilisi have had conversation with me for quite few hours.
He was trying to explain his thoughts to others and nobody would understand him.


At first it will look like I'm giving you complete nonsense.
for that I need you to think as if the nonsense is not nonsense.



1.Does surface of the earth have sine waves and/or  is able to carry on electrical waves?
do not confuse  this question with  question  #2




2. Does the earth responds to waveform?
Well of course it does.
Lets think for the moment that I was sometime  ago say (10 or more years) a Principal Investigator at number of scientific , government sponsored programs NASA Darpa
DoD ....and president of scientific entity located in WTC1... (for these who do not know.. go to Dr Judy Wood and John H ..)
We have been dealing with waves.
Piezoelectric  foil placed on the surface of the earth  was reading mechanical  vibrations coming from  the earth.
The basic principal for this passive reading was to measure speed of  waves coming  from the ground up to our sensor.


Than signal from foil was send to AD converter  than to DOS the signals at  certain spectrum have been send to Fourier analyses and than to photo-styler or any graphic program to get a picture -  cut of ,of the ground to depth  about 2km.  The picture represented all of the tiny  detail because  of
ever existing vibrations created by earth rotation, moon rotation, volcanic and seismic activity, oceans and rivers flow, man kind activity all of the borders between layers ..gravel, clay,rock  in extremely good resolution .


For purpose of FE...one of  conclusions might be friction that creates electric charge between layers?
and we drop to it:
- magnetic field of the earth and colliding magnetic fluxes from solar bodies, cosmic rays...
-friction of the air and electric charge...   
- the differentiation between to environments   air and earth..
-dielectric constant of layers and/or borders of the layers.. ( earth)
all of nonsense  is here to think about it...


short listing of FE causing factors:
-magnetic field
-electric field
- electrostatics charge
- mechanical  vibration
- energy conversion by mechanisms of nature
-seismic activity
-friction


Should I ask the question
3.If power company  delivers electric  charge at frequency 50Hz than we have sinus at wire only or we have sinus at ground as well.
4. If man walking on  the ground when HV wires are  on the ground after storm than
the resistance or better say impedance of his body between legs  is caring on  DC or 50Hz AC?
- he is far from wires
-the step voltage is there
-electrical conductivity of his body is easier  for the current to flow
-and power company DID NOT delivered DC but AC 50Hz.


5. If two conductors in the circuit have AC 50Hz  when we dealing with floating ground (= no ground)


than when we replace one of conductors with ground we should have  the same properties in that "conductor" as well ... obeying superposition rules

I have had discussion with John my friend he said that DC  caused death as well  only at voltage 600V 600A when man is walking on broken line.
Yes..
But he was dealing with 2m distance and DC is decreasing with distance while power companies send AC over hundreds of miles...
The man resistance ( NOT IMPEDANCE) was easier path between legs than ground.
The man was never  dealing with  zero voltage and maximum current.
So  fellows what is causing tungsten ( volfram) in light bulb to  dissipate energy  into  heat?
Current or voltage?


Could we say that by the means of manipulating  ZERO POINT OF VOLTAGE
TK was able to achieve maximum current and no voltage?

how did he do it?
say by  using standing wave properties.



6.So why than the voltage delivered to TK device was  zero after initial impulse and current was  zero.?


At 2004  presentation TK did not have (samozapitka) self looping as of yet . Or he was not presenting it.
His device was similar to Doland Smith device using energy source.
When he pulled  out the plug the device stop to give any response there was no longer light.
but he had a ground wire connected....

The meter used to measure  V/A should be  AC capable to response at frequency of oscillation and at particular the highest pick ( pucziok) of current when voltage is zero of Standing Wave   



Example:
Say I do not have respect to one of you but I have respect to my own wife.
7.Can than anyone measure amount of disrespect to that particular individual
by only knowing me and my wife?
NO you can not connect the V meter between two point if one of the points does not have relation to the point of reference.
You take clamp meter  the current is in the conductor ,the voltage is not but  power equals  ZERO as V is zero than  meter can not show current as well.
Got it?


Yes but  TK device was connected with one wire only ... the ground.....
I agree..


There is no such thing as one wire powering structure only... NOT by any means!!
The circuit must be closed for the current to flow in AC CIRCUITS.


So what about Abramienko Fork..


Circuit will be always closed loop by means of electromagnetic or electrostatic  coupling.
Yes we are delivering voltage to  one wire only in Abramienko Fork but we dealing with reverse signal path   upon that delivery due to  polarity of diodes.
The circuit closes due to electrostatic mechanism.
Ground=earth is there  or relation  of capacitive coupling between  two is there always.


7.So one say will Abramienko  Fork work in  altitude of 10Km?
Yes it will work.


The difference between ionospheric and ground potential= 45000V
anybody placed in between is under relation into ground  and/or  ionosphere.
When  we increase capacitance  of the body we will create stronger relation .


8.So why the birds do not die on HV lines?
Because the birds are on the same potential with no direct relation (-response) to points of reference.


9. So how to measure the voltage between two points heaving HV potential ( ground and HV wire) not connecting two points?
We can use electrostatic V-meter.
TK never used electrostatic V meter. And if he did It wil show voltage but we know without any doubts that HV is there ... only what we do not know is points of relation between points 
As we may simply measure between points of known not points of unknown.
Electrostatic charge does not have frequency..It does have polarity and speed of change of polarity.
Electrostatic charge has vector of direction.

Electrostatic charge speed of change is not related to sinusoidal wave but is caused by it.
It is mostly acting as a switch. You can not have  3/4 of polarity positive and 1/4 negative

At the certain point polarity changes rapidly with the speed of light  or speed of electron traveling in given medium.


Electrostatic charge can not have any % of positive and negative potential at one given point of wire due to relation  of that point in wire to ground
it is one or the opposite one at given point in time


O boy... I just found interesting something here...
SWITCH? ??..............
Burst of  energy............
Created by sign wave?


...got to think about it..




TK uses HV to create ionization and stronger relation between two environments...
If  there must be always closed circuit than wire of circuit between TK cevice is ground wire and the second one is Electrostatic switch..
In Aquarium and in Green box he used 2 ground wires  heaving distance  between the wires.
correct me if I'm wrong..


But he uses  a lot of load there.


I recall 
-faucet with cold water pipe  that is ground #1
and
-radiator from old automobile deep in to the ground and water poured.   ground # 2

The distance between points of  ground is our conductor that should obey  superposition rule.



10.  Can anyone from you point to me where wires from two grounds have been connected on the device?







I have limited time today so relation of standing wave to the whole structure discussed by me will be explained later




Wesley


PS: I know that some folks just do not bother to even read this nor understand.
But it is important to read it and try to understand.. without that there is no progress....

This is just about as I see it.

[stivep]

Thank you bboy


John M
Please read finished article it is only part one with no details about standing wave  yet.
You jumped  into the conclusions with unfinished part 1 of article
I specifically pointed in red to do not respond to article in progress of assembly.



Please analyze chart#1 revision # 6


Wesley


Please note that my article is only part 1 finished.
correlation between SW is not yet explained
Please read original article of mine as I have made few additions to it.- supporting my original statements

[Shokac]

This is my thoughts...

[stivep]

This is my thoughts...

Thank you shokac my friend


BUT
can you analyze  schematic if
we say that Transformer was Low voltage )12V) to 4 diodes to power  transistors
220V was delivered  to  Can-cylinder to say power the HV flyback hidden inside and /or  voltage multiplier MARX generator


Wesley