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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Jon_sparky

Quote from: a.king21 on August 23, 2012, 04:23:16 PM
Then he will be faced with 2 choices hopefully

Tk had his life threatened, in fact survived a direct attempt by Big E.
He may see his choice a little differently, between that real threat and yours.

Bedini was threatened but came out with kits and yahoo mentoring groups where folk learn how to cap charge their monopoles (not in the kits).

TK is motivated to get his work out somehow ex-loss of life or proprietry value
and may be caught between the devil and the deep blue,
it may be that open source is the only way that it can be released into the public domain,
the best thing for him ultimately?

Big thanks for sharing your circuit concept. This helps me figure out more how Tk´s basic 2004 setup compares with the more camouflaged Aquarium device.

Jon_sparky

How does the TK Circuit work?

With respect to everyone´s more experienced input just now, we agree that:

EVERYTHING works backwards.  (my opinion only)

L1 Primary is brought into resonance by L2a and b.
The power source is the Earth.
Resonance begins with the earth via the "cap-coil" combination (tin-can "auto-resonator").
The load is powered by the L3 pickup from the triple cap-coil resonator.
Overload is fed back to the spark gap.
One of the cap-coils connects to the earthed car radiator
just like a solar panel to the Sun, but as an electro-static collector?

Guys, this is just pure intuition, following your ideas + my guesswork - I am a techy writer not an electronic geek â€" you are the experts :)

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on August 23, 2012, 04:00:37 PM
Then why is it that TK can start the aquarium device with a 9V battery?

::)

The device is self-running, therefore it needs only a single capacitor discharge to start the process = self-resonance.  Shokac says via Inverter but I think it is simpler than that.

We need to look at this from the source BACKWARDS view - and how resonance is automatically established by the earth connected coil-cap (tin can) combination, and not from the usual spark-gap input.  We know that “a capacitor is a blocking device, the charge is placed on one side only, the other pulls in from the ambient” (DSmith).

IF the tin-can contains a coil-cap combination then the outer two caps may come into oscillating resonance with the inner earth-coupled cap to create cap charge doubling.
L2a and L2b are coupled to the outer two caps, L3 picksup from the inner.  The incoming DC pulses across all three cap plates.

Since the potential is set by the earth there is no upper limit to the charge - but necessarily the overload is dumped (?) via the spark gap - patent (a.king21)

Quote from: wattsup on August 24, 2012, 09:14:36 AM
The TKc winding is creating many HV convergent lines that are 6 phased, probably causing the ground negative to see it as a much stronger overall potential then it really is, hence piling on more negative potential.

The coil-caps are excited by (on start up a single) DC pulsing and then resonant oscillation inflates charge, to be discharged from the earth into the circuit via the load and the feedback.

IF the start power supply is only required to initiate self-recharging resonance then it makes sense the tin-can coil-cap is an auto-resonator combination.

Resonant frequency we know is a product of the inductance of the coil and the capacitance of the plates. I may be wrong with all of this but I think the resonance factor may be moderated by the earth.

Basic concept (don´t laugh):


Hoppy

Quote from: wattsup on August 24, 2012, 09:14:36 AM
@all

This is how I see the base problem. (My opinions only)

Example:

You want 2200 watts to heat up your element.

Now let's say you only have 220V at 5 amps so an output of 1100 watts that is far away from any OU because your real juice going in is 1400 watts.

So your choice is two fold.

A)  Either you find a way to double the 220v amperage from 5 to 10 amps. (or 120v from 10 to 20 amps)

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.................................

B) You raise the available low voltage of 220v/5A to 11,000v and 0.1 amps (same energy).
Then you work to raise the 0.1 amps to 0.2 amps and more.

So, which of A or B do you think is easier to accomplish?

wattsup

I would plump for B) but where does the 220V/5A for 4.5hrs come from in the case of TK's aquarium device?

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: wattsup on August 24, 2012, 09:14:36 AM
Example:

You want 2200 watts to heat up your element.

Now let's say you only have 220V at 5 amps so an output of 1100 watts that is far away from any OU because your real juice going in is 1400 watts.

So your choice is two fold.

A)  Either you find a way to double the 220v amperage from 5 to 10 amps. (or 120v from 10 to 20 amps)
Take a 220V/50Hz transformer with 1:1 windings. The AC voltage on the primary coil will create a current through this primary coil, this will create a magnetic field moving through the iron core towards the secondary coil, this then will create (induce) a voltage of 220V in the secondary coil. This process takes time (how fast moves a magnetic field inside a piece of iron?), so there should be a phase shift between the primary and the secondary coil. Now make a back loop from the secondary to the primary coil by means of a phase stabilizer (phase shifter, phase delayer), so the max. voltage (50Hz wave) from the secondary coil arrives at the primary coil just at the same time when the initial voltage feed into the primary coil is again on its maximum. This could easily result in a state of resonance.

Haven't tried such simple things yet, hence this is nothing than one more strange idea of mine. :-X

But say, TK's transformer has two secondaries with 110V each, this makes 220V together. Now while experimenting TK thinks he needs more power, because the spark of his experiment (which has nothing to do with FE) is somewhat faint, he connects the 220V output of the transformer with its input (connected to the inverter, not mains) and there you have it. :o

Quote from: wattsup on August 24, 2012, 09:14:36 AM
Then question of fake or not........... When you build something for a reason, all the components and connections will have a logical reason that any regular EE will see right away. There is none that are bad in TK's builds. All the wires are always going somewhere logical.
Can't see any logic in the aquarium boxes. Can't see any logic in the patent drawings. Can't see any logic in the descriptions and diagrams which are all around. The only logic that remains is to think illogical. And I have not the slightest idea yet (after 895 pages) which information on the TK device is real and which is disinformation.

Quote from: wattsup on August 24, 2012, 09:14:36 AM
It has to be simple.
Yes.

Kator01

Shokac,

QuoteI try all about I talking!

Question : how did you measure the existence of 23 A ?

Almost an impossibilty what you say:

The reactance of 8 pf at 50 Hz is 2.5 Megaohm !
The inductance of the secondary isdt about 3 to 4 H, Ohmic restistance is about 130 Ohm
Voltage-drop across the 8 pf condenser ( 2.5 MOhm) at 23 A = Xl * I = 57 Million Volt ??!!
Uuhps....
Power consumed in seconday at 23 A, wire of secondary is AWG 28
If a current of 23 A flows through the seconday with 130 Ohm a power of 2990 Watt is flowing through this coil. It will burn down your secondary in seconds, because peak-power is relevant in the wire not mean-power.

Think about this twice, before you make statements like this and claiming that you "try all about you talking"

Regards

Kator01