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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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   If the Bohr model of the atom is taken into consideration each electron is bound to the neucleus by the coloumb force.  In order for the electron not to "crash and die" on the surface of the proton it must have a certain amount of inertia.  This inertia results in the angular momentum of the electron.  Typically the velocity and mass of the electron expressed in electrical units is equal to one milliampere per electron.  The electric field associated with an electromagnetic wave aka photon disrupts the electric field which is binding the electron to the atom.  The electron becomes unbound and becomes a free electron and will experience acceleration towards the anode.  Any accleration or deaccleration of mass has to be accompanied by radiation of the old inertial parameters.  These photons can then result in an electron cascade event where just one atomic ionization event results in billions of freed and accelerated electrons migrating at highvelocity towards the anode.  This is not a space charge drifting around a heated cathode manipulated by a grid screen in order for a small amount of voltage to control a large amount of voltage.  This is what you find in lightning leaders as they progressively build a plasma conductor between charged capacitor "plates".  Once this plasma conductor completes the circuit between ground and cloud BOOM a shorted capacitor event takes place.  This identical to arc over in a spark gap and should be avoided unless your intent is to destroy your electrodes.
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Quote from: 4q on September 12, 2012, 09:10:27 AM
1.) Pulsing a transmission line which has closed at the other end (or terminated: remains imaginary but the high voltage may penetrate the center insulator). It seems that the important thing here to that the pulse width should be equal to the transmission line's speed velocity or can be comparable.
2.) Apply a second frequency around this line via a coil, or in Prentice's patent: direct to the opened TL.
3.) Use a parallel resonant LC tank around that maximize the amplitudes. I think this is resonant at the second generator's frequency or upper harmonics.
4.) Output coil / antenna around that will collect more energy which was applied by the pulses and the second generator's input.
5.) Need and earth connection.
6.) It has to be very simple so one (Kapanadze) could stumble over it by chance without much knowledge of electronics.

Could it be that the second frequency is 50Hz frequency? TK uses only spark (high) frequency and 50Hz (in 2004 video). I don't think there is any further mixing of frequencies involved here.

Where is the coax cable (transmission line) in 2004 video? The cable on the coil does not look like coax (including the high voltage cable). Then is it in the tin can? Not much room left there for big coax coils. Perhaps a small coax coil?

yfree

Quote from: verpies on September 12, 2012, 07:57:22 AM
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Devices based on the McFreey's operating principle must have a confining mechanism (magnetic field) and "electron lasing medium" and I don't think air would make a good one.
Seems like a block of ferrite or brass or other solid (even thick wire) is needed as a dense "electron lasing medium".
The only place where McFreey's phenomenon can be invoked in Dally's device, is the toroidal transformer. Modulated magnetic field in the toroid is created by the pulsing circuit. The RF comes from the nanosecond pulse generator, coupled by the winding on the big coil. The same winding can also deliver excess power to the load. This, however, does not look very probable.

I hope not, but the device may also appear to be just a receiver of energy from a local RF transmitter. The long ground wire may serve as an antenna.

4q

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on September 12, 2012, 10:25:40 AM
6.) It has to be very simple so one (Kapanadze) could stumble over it by chance without much knowledge of electronics.

Could it be that the second frequency is 50Hz frequency? TK uses only spark (high) frequency and 50Hz (in 2004 video). I don't think there is any further mixing of frequencies involved here.

Where is the coax cable (transmission line) in 2004 video? The cable on the coil does not look like coax (including the high voltage cable). Then is it in the tin can? Not much room left there for big coax coils. Perhaps a small coax coil?


I don't know but a wounded capacitor, a bifilar coil or coil-capacitor should be act like a transmission line. Lets say, 10ns period (5+5) is 100Mhz, not too much. (200Mhz for 5ns). Would be interesting to see scope shots from Dally's device output waveform this may answer your question regarding to the second frequency.


Just thinking:
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The used diode bridge at the output could be unusable at the range of 5-10ns (100-200Mhz) to rectify anything due to the diode's self capacity. If the device has several frequencies at the output, they would be lower than 100khz for usable power at the output by the used bridge. So I think the output frequency is equals to the seconf frequency generator, there are no other way to use it. The oil-paper capacitors on the brigde's +- output also usable to the khz- max.1Mhz range due to it's physical dimensions and working principle (oil). Other: in the Prentice's patent, the output antenna tuned to the same frequency like the input LC tank resonance.
Therefore I may say that the output frequency is equals to the second frequnency and has no correlation to the multi megahertz pulses.
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verpies

Quote from: sparks on September 12, 2012, 09:41:26 AM
The electric field associated with an electromagnetic wave aka photon disrupts the electric field which is binding the electron to the atom.
But this process downgrades or destroys the photon, see Compton Scattering or Photoelectric Effect.
This only an energy conversion (from the photon to electron), soon the downgraded photons cannot eject electrons from the atoms anymore...unless the supply of fresh photons is maintained.

Quote from: sparks on September 12, 2012, 09:41:26 AM
The electron becomes unbound and becomes a free electron and will experience acceleration towards the anode.  Any acceleration or decceleration of mass has to be accompanied by radiation of the old inertial parameters.
But the power supply connected to the anode must expend energy to do that. If not then the electric potential of the anode becomes quickly neutralized by the incoming electronic charges.

Quote from: sparks on September 12, 2012, 09:41:26 AM
These photons can then result in an electron cascade event where just one atomic ionization event results in billions of freed and accelerated electrons migrating at highvelocity towards the anode.
Yes, but only at the expense of the electric potential between the anode and cathode, hence no excess of energy remains in the system.

Quote from: sparks on September 12, 2012, 09:41:26 AM
This is not a space charge drifting around a heated cathode manipulated by a grid screen in order for a small amount of voltage to control a large amount of voltage.  This is what you find in lightning leaders as they progressively build a plasma conductor between charged capacitor "plates".
But building those lighting leaders costs the cloud energy.