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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Zeitmaschine

Quote from: bass on September 30, 2012, 12:20:41 AM
Select a capacitor with connected load!
When you change the load, changing the inductance.

This is exactly that what not should happen according to Kapanadze. His system is auto-resonant. Thus something is wrong here. And where are the two transformers in the tin can video? I can see one transformer, so the second one must be hidden in the tin can, but there is no room for it because half of the room in this can should be taken by a HV generator and a lot of wires.

Therefore the question: How to make a system that keeps resonance independent of the load?

My idea for testing would be: Why run a transformer with 220V from grid or inverter? Wouldn't it be easier to run it with a frequency generator with 12V only so a) low-voltage capacitors are needed for testing instead of 220V ones and b) since the frequency generator is adjustable the frequency can be adjusted (slightly) to get resonance (visible on a connected oscilloscope) instead of adjusting (changing) the capacitor(s)?

And what if a transformer has two secondary coils? Each coil connected to one capacitor would then do what? ::)

a.king21

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on September 29, 2012, 07:40:16 AM
Another capacitor? That's awesome! Then obviously all what is needed to get a running electric Free Energy device is a couple of capacitors and a couple of coils/transformers driven by AC voltage. The AC voltage can be ordinary 220V/50Hz as proven by Kapanadze and his blue inverter.

So then, why can't anyone get this to work?? >:( ???

Regards

Maybe people have...................then they just quietly disappear from the forum..............

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on September 30, 2012, 07:35:11 AM
Therefore the question: How to make a system that keeps resonance independent of the load?

Good question, since it is ignored in 99% of all cases and everybody kills the resonance with a constant load.
One answer is the use of a diode plug topology to extract the energy suggested by Hector ages ago.
Something similar was described in one of Melnichenko's patents about reception of radio waves, the concept is not new

bass

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on September 30, 2012, 07:35:11 AM
This is exactly that what not should happen according to Kapanadze. His system is auto-resonant. Thus something is wrong here. And where are the two transformers in the tin can video? I can see one transformer, so the second one must be hidden in the tin can, but there is no room for it because half of the room in this can should be taken by a HV generator and a lot of wires.

Therefore the question: How to make a system that keeps resonance independent of the load?

My idea for testing would be: Why run a transformer with 220V from grid or inverter? Wouldn't it be easier to run it with a frequency generator with 12V only so a) low-voltage capacitors are needed for testing instead of 220V ones and b) since the frequency generator is adjustable the frequency can be adjusted (slightly) to get resonance (visible on a connected oscilloscope) instead of adjusting (changing) the capacitor(s)?

And what if a transformer has two secondary coils? Each coil connected to one capacitor would then do what? ::)

Сapacitors are connected to the primary coil, not secondary coils.
High voltage winding can be wound on the same transformer in the tin can.
System is not necessarily need auto-resonance. Half of his device shows a constant load.
I remember how nervous Kapanadze when  on the presentation of green box  he was asked to reduce the load. Frequency meter on the presentation showed 50 Hz.


Сount the number of reactive power at the coil series resonant circuit.
For example:
12 volt power supply
Loop current 1 A
Q (very modest) 10
Then the coil of the resonant circuit voltage is 12V * 10 = 120 volts
Consumption from the power supply 12V * 1A = 12 watts
Reactive power in the coil of the resonant circuit 120V * 1A = 120 watts

From measurements of Kapanadze tin can
Input current of the inverter is 0.4A
Load current 24A
Hence Q is 24A / 0,4 A = 60. It is not very much.
I'm trying to tell you how I see the principle of the device, not the final version. :)

a.king21

Resonance: Thinking about resonance, my opinion is that the load is part of the circuit, not independent from it. Kapanadze then got round the problem of varying the load by introducing a spark gap across the load. This  allows for an increase or decrease of the load condition, but still maintains resonance.
I do not think we should focus on this too much, as this is conventional electronics.
What we should focus on is how 220v 50 Hz can produce such a massive spark gap as in both aquarium videos. My conclusion is that he uses two voltages at 50 Hz simultaneously; ie HV and mains voltage. This would mean that the l1 circuit is mains, and the l2 circuit is HV. That to me is the only logical explanation. If anyone has any other explanation that agree with the videos and the patents then I'm all ears.