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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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xenomorphlabs

Quote from: 27Bubba on November 07, 2012, 07:34:49 AM

I think, along with the toroid coil he is using the PPM module he is talking about.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wXO5k8dmJI&list=UUhgi4ns1UCxX1DI3m390g0A&index=10&feature=plcp

In the comment section of the video
he states that he used a schematic from http://electroschematics.com/220/12v-dc-220v-ac-converter/
You can clearly see that the PPM module has a blue colored circuit board and the one he built himself
is typical solder-board colored.
Even though he also commented :"did you use ppm for your inverter ?. Yes sir, a dual design pulser. Thanks for watching."
So one can choose what he really used. At least what can be seen in the foreground is not that RMCybernetics board and has only one knob for
the frequency, where a PPM would at least require 2.

He talks about the right frequency. Conclusion is that he did not use the 60Hz configuration that the circuit defaults to.
However, how is he powering a table saw with anything other than 60Hz AC? It does not need highly sinusoidal waveforms, you can even get away with
nearly rectangular waveforms probably (like from that electroschematics thing) , but with a higher frequency? I must admit that i never tried though hehe.
At resonance the rectangular waveform would morph to a sinewave anyway, but how he controls that resonant frequency in a driven circuit to be 60Hz is beyond me.
Does this mean that once again the wonder of converting a radio frequency to 60Hz takes place somewhere? And that without big caps?
That is the part that makes me wonder. Lamps will shine with whatever frequency.

Zeitmaschine

And in his white plastics box he is not using a BD699 as he indicates by pointing to the (someones?) schematic. It is a TO-220 transistor, maybe MOSFET with invers-diode.

A quick thought: Could it be that the »key» is to run a transformer not with one primary but with two? Each primary with one half of the full wave only? And it does not matter if the wave is square or sine? ???

At least this would be a good explanation for the 4 Kapanadze/Stepanov diodes.

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 07, 2012, 08:08:02 AM
And in his white plastics box he is not using a BD699 as he indicates by pointing to the (someones?) schematic. It is a TO-220 transistor, maybe MOSFET with invers-diode.

A quick thought: Could it be that the »key» is to run a transformer not with one primary but with two? Each primary with one half of the full wave only? And it does not matter if the wave is square or sine? ???

At least this would be a good explanation for the 4 Kapanadze/Stepanov diodes.

You mean something like this? To block reflection?

Simulated: Simulation (Can't be simmed exactly like intended unfortunately) Another approach would be to have it H-bridged)
One primary circuit must actually be switched/disconnected/diode-reversed completely while the other circuit is conducting.
But that whole thing would probably only work if ideally the primary wire would be a N-P junction all along its length. Otherwise
the currents would just add at a spot regardless of the diodes.

I asked the experimenter about his set-up and he answered:
QuotePackage tape holds them together as well as the windings going around them...windings are hooked up in parallel to one another. Thanks for watching.
Not sure if he means what is inbetween the toroids with that.

TinselKoala

Huh?
I've looked at the videos, I like the nice inverter packaging... but ... huh?

The schematic diagram linked is an ordinary 4047 multivibrator chip driving a pair of Darlington pairs. If this is done right, the transistors switch at the zero-crossings of the output waveform and hence stay cool. The 4047 allows the user to control the frequency rather than it being self triggering and self-resonating like a Royer oscillator, as used in my wireless power systems and flyback drivers and in inductive heaters ( which I might try building next). Google for "ZVS circuit" and you'll find a lot of information on zero-voltage-switching circuits.

I think it's an either-or: he's using the 4047 based homemade version in his white tube inverter and the commercial unit (very neat) in the other one. But I think his frequency citations aren't right when he talks about the output freqs of that unit.
The transistors in the schematic could be any Darlingtons with the required ratings, or mosfets of low Rdss. The transformers are designed by their designers to work best at a certain input frequency, and the knob on the little multivibrator circuit allows one to find the best input frequency. Coincidence that it happens to be the frequency that the transformers were designed for? They also have large thermal mass and will take quite a while to heat up... the batteries will run down first.
The 4 x 500 W bulb demonstration drew the supply down and did not make anywhere near 2000 Watts of light.

So I have got to ask.... huh? What's the big deal?

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 07, 2012, 04:59:56 PM
Huh?
I've looked at the videos, I like the nice inverter packaging... but ... huh?

The schematic diagram linked is an ordinary 4047 multivibrator chip driving a pair of Darlington pairs. If this is done right, the transistors switch at the zero-crossings of the output waveform and hence stay cool. The 4047 allows the user to control the frequency rather than it being self triggering and self-resonating like a Royer oscillator, as used in my wireless power systems and flyback drivers and in inductive heaters ( which I might try building next). Google for "ZVS circuit" and you'll find a lot of information on zero-voltage-switching circuits.

I think it's an either-or: he's using the 4047 based homemade version in his white tube inverter and the commercial unit (very neat) in the other one. But I think his frequency citations aren't right when he talks about the output freqs of that unit.
The transistors in the schematic could be any Darlingtons with the required ratings, or mosfets of low Rdss. The transformers are designed by their designers to work best at a certain input frequency, and the knob on the little multivibrator circuit allows one to find the best input frequency. Coincidence that it happens to be the frequency that the transformers were designed for? They also have large thermal mass and will take quite a while to heat up... the batteries will run down first.
The 4 x 500 W bulb demonstration drew the supply down and did not make anywhere near 2000 Watts of light.

So I have got to ask.... huh? What's the big deal?

@TinselKoala:

It's good to have scrutiny. Maybe there is more interpreted into this than there really is to it.
The big deal might be seen in him using 2 small batteries that can only be around 7-10 Ah each.

The lamps at full brightness would have rendered the video nearly white, certainly he would get eye problems hehe, totally agreeing on that one. Hard to say how bright they really were. Cameras nowadays adjust pretty well too. His hand seems pretty dark when the lights are on which is a sign of a stronger light than his ceiling light.

Also agreeing on the transistors and they would also need a little longer than 10 seconds heavy load on them to rise in temperature if not switched at zero crossing.
So what are your estimations of power used?
Lamps real power usage 500 Watt all together maybe? At 12 Volt that would be 40 Amps of current. Doable by those small batteries? It was audible that they were drawn down quite a bit.
A 5 minutes full load run test with constant voltage measurement on the batteries would have certainly evidently shown if there is anything unusual about it. It would be great if the experimenter could consider that in a future demo.


@Zeitmaschine: Since Stepanov talks about reactive power, you should look into what a "diode plug" to extract reactive power is.