Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[sparks]

   ac ammeters assume you are working with 60hertz.  The change in the magnetic field is picked up in the core metal of the meters laminations and the pickup winding wrapped around said laminations generates an emf.  This emf is then measured most commonly by rectification-filtering and feeding it across a known resistance.  The voltage drop across the resistor is fed to the needle coil which responds to the permanent magnet field surrounding it. 
  Like Steven Marks" TPU I have yet to see an oscilliscope used anywhere in these demonstrations.  Obviously if you are going to buy an alternate energy device you better bring an oscilliscope with you otherwise the whole thing turns into a where does this wire go and what's in the can deal which is "interesting but stupid".
   What I would like to know is if we use an ammeter clamped around a conductor between the capacitor and the inductor comprising the oscillator does moving the ac ammeter dampen the oscillations?  The magnetic field is changing about the conductor anyway so why not get a little feedback out of it.
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[Hoppy]

" One remaining mystery is how did he get the mains live feed into the fish tank in the Aqua2 video? "


Maybe he used monofiliment fishing line ?

After all, it is a fish aquarium.

Yeh, and he's caught a few hook line and sinker! 

[Cap-Z-ro]

Damn, I shoudda thrown in that line also Hap-I mean Hoppy.

BTW, I think you and me are the only ones aware of your swapping a's and o's.

I get a chuckle at that.

Regards...

[TinselKoala]

@Wattsup:

I asked @lasersaber is he could measure the frequency going to his bulb. I have not received a response but by the way the bulb reacts I would say it is not really 60Hz but it could be a high frequency riding on the 60Hz. If so, with a scope you should see a nice 60Hz wave form but instead of a single line, the line will be sawtooth like. We have seen this many times when doing one wire lighting of bulbs, or by using the body as ground.

I also suggested that he have a line going to his mains neutral so he can continuously do comparisons between the earth ground and the mains neutral.

Yep, my scoping of my version of his circuit bears this out, both the first point and the implication in the second point. However he says he's seeing his effect far from any AC mains supply, running only on Earth ground and stored cap charge.

What I've seen is that the base of the first transistor is triggered by the 60 Hz frequency of the mains, capacitatively coupled through the stray wiring and my body, making a circuit thru the Earth ground. Scoping the Earth ground as a "signal" and using the scope's chassis ground as reference, gives me an almost perfect sine wave at 60 Hz with a p-p amplitude of around 170 volts.... and my RMS Fluke meter reads a solid steady 57.4 VAC RMS when measuring the Earth ground wrt the house wiring neutral. And I don't think this is a "ground fault" or floating neutral condition, either. The AC is supposed to vary about the true ground potential, isn't it? And so it does. My Earth ground is a 4-foot piece of copper pipe driven into moist soil underneath a window air conditioner condensation drip (yes, in November in South Texas we still are using A/C some of the time).
There is just barely enough "power" in this to just barely flicker a green LED when connected directly between my Earth ground connection and the chassis ground of my scope. I think it is this tiny bit of power that is noisily triggering the 2n2222 transistor, which then starts the JT oscillations, and the light is actually powered by the stored charge on the capacitor, but is "enabled" by the first-stage tickling of the base of the 2222 by the capacitatively coupled circuit with the mains and the Earth ground, formed by the stray wiring or experimenter's touch. This power is not powering the light, at least not in my "replication" of part of LS's work. Check my YT channel, the last few vids are dealing with his very interesting and amazing circuit. Apparent battery recharging while running the LED, for example.

[wattsup]

Not sure if i got you right. You think that it is possible to add a 6.4 volts potential to a grounded water pipe thus being able to tap that potential from the pipe to do work?
Or by saying "will not effect anything" you conclude that the potential will be "dragged to ground" ?
What do you mean then by spiking the water pipe?
Anything like spikes (impulse waveforms), ac, stable dc will not leave a grounded water pipe to form a usable potential outside of it. If so
i would stay away from touching any water tap, cuz i could get shocked from stray currents being on their way to ground. The effort/concept of grounding would be obsolete then. But pretty sure i misunderstood you.

@xenomorphlabs

OK, what I am trying to determine is why is the ground wire of the rad giving such different results as the ground wire going to the water pipe.  If we had a good translation of that portion of the video we could maybe have something to anaylze in their obvious reactions and comments. My previous post spells out the areas of interest.

From the many ways we have pulsed things in the past, I can easily say this.....

If I used the water pipe like any normal ground, but then added a single high frequency pulse using just the positive of that generated frequency and connected it to the water pipe at a remote location not seen in the video, then if you put your scope on the battery or anywhere else on that device, that high frequency pulse should be evident across the complete system regardless if you have diodes, matching or step up/down transformers, 220volts AC driving, etc, etc. It does not matter. That high frequency will permeate the complete system and can react in ways we would never see or know about. This could act as an anti-Lenz law making effect, who knows.

While we are looking at the system function in its standard visibly intuitive manner, being, energy starts at the battery, passes through each stage to output where it is looped back to the battery or inverter input without the battery, then we are already at a great handicap because be could be seeing this thing working in our normal sense of how circuits work but this device could actually be working backwards, and we would never know it from the visible aspects.

So while we are pounding away at trying to get this working in our perspective of how a normal linear function can perform, the devices true function may be backwards, or there may be one small ingredient missing that is injected into the system from somewhere we cannot have access to and that one small ingredient may be the only real catalyst to the TK effects we see. Without it, we are just slicing water with a sword.

This is not to say there are no other effects to be had and we have all seen thus far from so many builds, trials, experiments showing effects. This is normal when you are working with such mixtures of energy. Everything will create an effect. What we have not seen is low watts in and high watts out. Why??? When after so many months (hmmm say years since the thread started in 2009) nothing is panning out, then at some point we have to go back to the drawing board and see where is there room for added energy into the system. The only logical place is from the ground source that is the most common element in all the TK devices. Everything else could change but that ground source does not. Consider....

The 2004 device - We never saw him playing around with the ground or showing its origin.
The Green Box device - The water pipe could be spiked from any point where that pipe is coming from.
The Wesley Georgian device - The ground wire going to that pit could have been spiked at any other point on the metal L-Bracket trim.
The Aq2 device - That bolt on the cement slab is surely going somewhere else from under the slab. At the start of the video you can see two guys coming out of the far room where the ground bolt could have a wire leading into that other room.

You can go to most any EE store and buy these intercom systems for the home where all you have to do it plug two or more of these stations into any mains wall socket and the energy to each plus the transmission of the communication signals will occur straight through the existing mains wiring in the home. You can have such frequencies riding on a mains line any way you want. The intercom intercepts only those com signals and amplifies them for the users. So there is nothing that could dispel TK from using such a scheme to send HF energy into the device were the device accumulates this and feeds the load.

So when  the fat guy is measuring 6.4 volts potential difference between the radiator and the water pipe. Why did it show that voltage level? Now, I have the same set-up on my bench with one line going to a real earthing rod in my backyard and another line coming from my main copper water pipe where I know my water pipe has a direct link to the mains neutral. The voltage I measure is 0.44 vdc that I checked with two different volt meters both showing no "low battery" condition of the volt meter. This is the correct measurement and anywhere I go I should see this same result. So why is TK showing 6.4 volts?

So what does 6.4 volts mean. Well, it could mean 6.4 volts at 200 amps pulsed at 100khz and you will never feel anything abnormal on that water pipe, but the available energy that could be rather extensive. The volt meter would only read 6.4 volts.

When you look at the TK device from that perspective, seeing a possible energy input from a new source, this may help explain the system topology where the device may have really been designed to work backwards.

There a several other points in the Green Box video that do not make sense. One main concern is this........

The first time they lit the bulbs at 13:54 the fat guy measured voltage directly at the green box output wires and it showed it was jumping from a low of 322 to a high of 425 vac, then, right away he went to measure the voltage across one same bulb and it showed 595, 490, 845, 748, 561, overload, 861, overload, 642, 738, 619, 405, 685, 180, 1180, overload. So why is there such a big difference in voltage jumps when it is the same output line measured at two distances. This really bugs me. Right when TK removed the volt meter probes from the bulb his face turned somewhat pale as if to say "Phew, I hope fat guy did not understand what he just saw".

@TK

Thanks for your comments. Maybe try to use a frequency generator with only the positive lead going to the ground and supply a small voltage pulse either sine or square then sweep around to see if you can find a sweet spot and then play with the pulse width and see if that would increase your circuit output by multiples of what you see now. Any gain that could not be explained by the energy fed by your FG would be of interest.

wattsup