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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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verpies

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 30, 2012, 10:50:39 AM
The simplest way to generate a sawtooth wave would be a capacitor which is connected to a voltage source.
No, voltage across a capacitor charged from a voltage source does not change linearly with time - it changes reciprocally exponentially.

Also, what does this graph represent?
a) Voltage across the capacitor
b) Voltage across the coil
c) Voltage across the switch
d) Current through capacitor
e) Current through the coil
f) Current through the switch

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: verpies on December 01, 2012, 05:58:37 AM
No, voltage across a capacitor charged from a voltage source does not change linearly with time - it changes reciprocally exponentially.

Also, what does this graph represent?
a) Voltage across the capacitor
b) Voltage across the coil
c) Voltage across the switch
d) Current through capacitor
e) Current through the coil
f) Current through the switch

I think he wanted to depict the shape of the waveform created at/by a function generator or anything comparable that would basically
create the original signal to be amplified.
What you say is correct and also the voltage/time and current/time measured at an inductor would have an exponential shape if connected to a voltage source.
In this example it would be a changing AC voltage feeding the coils.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: verpies on December 01, 2012, 05:58:37 AM
No, voltage across a capacitor charged from a voltage source does not change linearly with time - it changes reciprocally exponentially.
It does not matter how it charges (could be also a curve). The main thing is that it goes off instantaneously. The sharper the switch-off slope the higher the back voltage generated by the coil. Whether this back voltage does anything useful afterwards or not is a different matter.

Quote
Also, what does this graph represent?
a) Voltage across the capacitor
b) Voltage across the coil
c) Voltage across the switch
d) Current through capacitor
e) Current through the coil
f) Current through the switch
g) Voltage across the unloaded power source like this graph. Of course a connected coil (b) will distort the graph heavily but that's exactly the general idea of this.

For the same reason a TV's flyback does not work with a sine wave input. It needs sharp declining slopes in order to generate high voltage. But if it generates high voltage then this high voltage will easily spark to ground in contrast to the low voltage at the primary side, even if the high voltage is DC, hence no high frequency is involved.

Ever touched the high voltage connector of a fully charged picture tube of a completely disconnected TV? ;D

A picture tube behaves like a high voltage capacitor. The coating on the outside is negative, the coating on the inside (connector) is positive. Since positive means a lack of electrons and ground (or someone's body) is a source of electrons a current will flow from ground to the positive inside of the charged tube capacitor although there is no closed circuit anywhere.

Therefore the task would be: How to get a (sawtooth) wave with a sharp switch-off slope out of a sine wave by means of a minimum of electronic components in order to create a lack of electrons so a current of electrons can flow through the ground connection towards the positive voltage spike? The less components the better, because we want to keep it simple. :)


xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on December 01, 2012, 09:55:23 AM

For the same reason a TV's flyback does not work with a sine wave input. It needs sharp declining slopes in order to generate high voltage. But if it generates high voltage then this high voltage will easily spark to ground in contrast to the low voltage at the primary side, even if the high voltage is DC, hence no high frequency is involved.

So you are saying that you attribute the fact that a TV flyback outputs high voltage to the slope of the signal rather than to the high winding ratio ?

QuoteTherefore the task would be: How to get a (sawtooth) wave with a sharp switch-off slope out of a sine wave by means of a minimum of electronic components in order to create a lack of electrons so a current of electrons can flow through the ground connection towards the positive voltage spike? The less components the better, because we want to keep it simple.

A sawtooth could be generated by adding several sinewaves (Fourier) if you really wanna go that way with a sinewave as a start.
There is easier methods.

stivep


MAGNETIC FLUX COMPRESSION
FOR HIGH VOLTAGE PULSE APPLICATIONS
by
JUAN CARLOS HERNANDEZ LLAMBES, B.S.E.E., M.S.E.E.


DOES IT RING THE BELL?

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MAGNETIC FLUX COMPRESSION
FOR HIGH VOLTAGE PULSE APPLICATIONS
by
JUAN CARLOS HERNANDEZ LLAMBES, B.S.E.E., M.S.E.E.
A DISSERTATION
IN
ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING




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Similarities  with TK coil I have saved this article and did not analyze it till few minutes ago.
OK.................. I know it there was  about 2 years ago  I briefly covered it in scientific group session- they did not pay attention to it at that time.
Have to, to bring it on the table again


got to read it true.


Look at chapter from this article:
IV. COMPACT FCG DRIVEN INDUCTIVE ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM
!!!!


WESLEY



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